Got pwned by Guarder High Output Valve for WA

Stealth · August 17th, 2005, 09:51

Sooo.... got one of these last night.

Installed it along with a new Guarder Firing Pin. The WA already has the upgraded hammer spring in there.

Filled it up with propane, put the mag in, racked it back, and pulled the trigger...

*puff*

Gun doesn't blow back, but the bb comes shooting out at around 380fps.

Seems like the hammer isn't strong enough to hit the valve hard enough.

Any other experiences??

MadMax · August 17th, 2005, 10:02

Chill your mag for 5min in your fridge and try your gun again.

If that fixes your problem, the your hammer spring isn't stiff enough to blast open the valve.

weslee · August 18th, 2005, 09:36

I have run in to this problem a few times with Guarder valves. Take the valve apart and cut one or two coils off the spring, reassemble and it should be good to go.

*Note* If you cut too much of the spring off the valve will not hold gas.

MadMax · August 18th, 2005, 10:44

??!! Cut the coils on the dinky return spring in the valve?

They're nowhere near stiff enough to be causing a problem.

Stealth · August 19th, 2005, 23:13

The stupid pressure is too high... even the upgraded hammer spring can't hit it hard enough.

Time to put extra spacers in there.. muhahahaha.... 400fps here i come

lamlok · August 22nd, 2005, 04:47

use a 150% hammer spring and a longer firing pin will solve the problem

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August 17th, 2005, 09:51	#1
Stealth Mr. Silencer Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto	Got pwned by Guarder High Output Valve for WA Sooo.... got one of these last night. Installed it along with a new Guarder Firing Pin. The WA already has the upgraded hammer spring in there. Filled it up with propane, put the mag in, racked it back, and pulled the trigger... puff Gun doesn't blow back, but the bb comes shooting out at around 380fps. Seems like the hammer isn't strong enough to hit the valve hard enough. Any other experiences??

August 17th, 2005, 10:02	#2
MadMax Delierious Designer of Dastardly Detonations Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: in the dark recesses of some metal chip filled machine shop	Chill your mag for 5min in your fridge and try your gun again. If that fixes your problem, the your hammer spring isn't stiff enough to blast open the valve. __________________ Want nearly free GBB gas?

August 18th, 2005, 10:44	#4
MadMax Delierious Designer of Dastardly Detonations Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: in the dark recesses of some metal chip filled machine shop	??!! Cut the coils on the dinky return spring in the valve? They're nowhere near stiff enough to be causing a problem. __________________ Want nearly free GBB gas?

August 18th, 2005, 09:36	#3
weslee Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC	I have run in to this problem a few times with Guarder valves. Take the valve apart and cut one or two coils off the spring, reassemble and it should be good to go. Note If you cut too much of the spring off the valve will not hold gas.

August 19th, 2005, 23:13	#5
Stealth Mr. Silencer Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto	The stupid pressure is too high... even the upgraded hammer spring can't hit it hard enough. Time to put extra spacers in there.. muhahahaha.... 400fps here i come

August 22nd, 2005, 04:47	#6
lamlok Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: HK	use a 150% hammer spring and a longer firing pin will solve the problem

Got pwned by Guarder High Output Valve for WA

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