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Old December 14th, 2007, 02:22   #16
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I have a solution to this problem that I play by. Shoot them. If they didn't call hit, shoot them again. If they still don't call it, keep shooting them until they do. There is no part of the body that is off-limits. You show up to a game with a head, arms, legs and a torso, expect all of them to get hit.

I will keep shooting until I hear you call hit. Nobody is so far away that I can't hear the call.

Who says you hit them the first time, or the second time, or the third time? Most BBs don't have a built-in camera to offer you proof.
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Old December 14th, 2007, 12:40   #17
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i think the "shoot for effect" idea is good, but at the same time its unfortunate it has to come to that. and yes, it is true that these "harder targets" serve as better training, but it becomes really frustrating when these "harder targets" become impossible targets.

i for one play for the training aspect of it all, the fun is an awesome bonus. but these harder targets completely take away the fun, and in turn take away any motivation to continue participating in the "training". i really dont consider shooting a guy a good 10-20 times without result "training". especially when its your training that youve recieved (eg. minimal exposure) that makes this person think its just "ricochets" cause he cant see you.
For me personally, i really dont want to shoot someone in the head, esp. at a place like ttac when engagements are much closer than outdoors, esp. when some people dont wear full face protection.

well anyways its late, im tired, enough whining, im startin to feel like colin :P

i guess at the end of the day, this is just the unfortunate reality of playing an honour based game, when some people simply have no honour.
I get that, and in the exceptions.. the crappy feeling is all you take away..

I've been in similar situations... in this case it was a fellow flagging his gun.. I kept shooting it.. ( we play gun hit is gun out ) he kept pulling it back and poking it out again... Eventually I just waited till I could see the arm.. then fired..

My point is... at the end of the day it does not matter if someone takes it or not.. as long as I know I hit and where..

In the case you describe above.. look at it this way... you shot 30 arms.. so somewhere there are 30 wounded guys.. Did you hold that line.. did you neutralize the advance? did you tie up that entry ... did your skill at arms make a difference when matched against the opponent...

Yes to all.. you win The fact that one fellow.. allowed you to acheive all of that... its a good outcome
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Old December 14th, 2007, 12:43   #18
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a life jacket? Isn't that a little "overboard"?



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Old December 14th, 2007, 12:46   #19
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a life jacket? Isn't that a little "overboard"?



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well it was his first time in the deep end..
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Old December 14th, 2007, 13:02   #20
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Old December 14th, 2007, 13:06   #21
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Old December 14th, 2007, 13:23   #22
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There is a whole power point presentation attached to that picture I'll see if I can dig it up it's hilarious.
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Old December 14th, 2007, 15:33   #23
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I have been around long enough to catalogue in my mind who needs to get some extra BB's and who will call a one shot hit.

I adjust my fire accordingly and bring the pain when that does not work out.

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Old December 14th, 2007, 15:48   #24
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I have been around long enough to catalogue in my mind who needs to get some extra BB's and who will call a one shot hit.

I adjust my fire accordingly and bring the pain when that does not work out.

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Old December 14th, 2007, 15:50   #25
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I am usually the first one dead, so I don't have to many problems with ppl calling hits.

Plus I am known for overfiring anyways.
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Old December 14th, 2007, 15:53   #26
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It's ok Amano, you're in good company.

By good, I really mean bad. By company, I really mean me.
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Old December 14th, 2007, 16:54   #27
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Very well said Brian.

I must say I have run into these "cheaters" and also have probably been hit and not felt it thus not called it and then pissed someone off and I'm sure it will happen to all of us if it hasn't.
The attitude that Brian has outlined above is definitely a good way to save yourself some stress if you run into this issue and is an attitude I share I'm glad someone has taken the time and effort to share some good views that should be in my opinion shared by this whole community.
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Old December 14th, 2007, 17:12   #28
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There always seems to be at least one hot head on the field,,Anger is a funny thing.

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Old December 14th, 2007, 23:11   #29
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I know it sounds kind of sick, but I prefer to get hit in a place that really hurts. A) you know you've been hit B) Pain = punishment for getting hit. Pain is an excellent teacher.
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Old December 15th, 2007, 09:09   #30
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I find that when you snipe, you often get people ignore the hits, either because they just don't realize they've been hit (my VSR-10 is not too powerful and I tend to shoot from quite far), or because they're cheaters. But most of the time people just don't realize. I'm not mad at them, but the next shot will be to a more exposed place. Not bare skin, just less kitted spot, like the leg. If I'm really far or the guy is really thick, I go for the goggles, and I've almost never hit people in the face, and even then it doesn't hurt too much because the BB has lost alot of it's velocity once there. Ok Aper might disagree on this one, I got him pretty bad once he he.

I find the goggle shot to be quite satisfying and very effective
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