I don't run a MOSFET because...

ssrc30 · August 29th, 2012, 00:41

I don't play often enough to justify using MOSFET. Also, LiPo power isn't something I'm interested in.

RaisinBran · August 29th, 2012, 03:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth

So for those of you waiting for the FETS, this shit just happened.
http://www.airsoftstore.ca/index.php...ex&cPath=35_34

You asked for it, we brought it.

the Gate Electronics GDS-4005 Basic FET.

Has everything you need, nothing that you don't. VERY small package size (3cm x 1.3cm x 1cm) and crimp connectors make installation a breeze. Comes with an integrated heat-sink that reinforces the whole unit.

Just hook this up to your trigger contacts to eliminate trigger arcing forever. Comes with the gate wire and heat-shrink tubing to make the unit water-resistant.

More info here:
http://www.airsoftstore.ca/index.php...roducts_id=134

This one comes with a 12 month warranty.

And for under $20?!! You have no excuse not to get one.

AAAAnd Introducing the Gate Electronics MERF 3.2 AEG control unit.
Features:
* Active Braking
* Programmable 3-rd burst
* Internal protection (lipo battery monitoring, temperature protection, short circuit protection)
* Programmable ROF control and smart trigger
* Handles high-powered applications
* 2 Installation modes - simple and advanced. Simple for straight plug-and-play and Advanced for all the fancy features

Under $70. SAY WHAT?!!

More info here:
http://www.airsoftstore.ca/index.php...roducts_id=135

Oh and it also comes with a 12 month warranty. (WHAT?!!)

I fucking love you, ordering a few ASAP!

ThunderCactus · August 29th, 2012, 07:41

Are those..... 16ga solid copper rods on the board? *tear*
so beautiful

Now if only someone could build that for a PTW *nudge nudge wink wink*

Fong242 · August 29th, 2012, 08:12

I love the design but I would be curious to see their heat sink math... Then again we don't have all the specs.

Anyone know what microcontroller is on that? A 32 pin Atmel something? I wonder why they need that much IOs...

Pesky · August 29th, 2012, 08:24

I also do love you stealth going to be ordering one ASAP i wanted to switch over to XT60 connectors but deans is fine for me! Thank you Stealth!

vink · August 29th, 2012, 09:04

Those installation instructions are terrible.

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Stealth · August 29th, 2012, 09:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by vink

Those installation instructions are terrible.

Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2

What's terrible about them (besides the Engrish)? We're working with Gate to update the manual at this time.

m102404 · August 29th, 2012, 09:29

Truth be told, they're no worse than a lot of the posts on this forum...and while the grammar/wording is poor it's enough to get the job done. In fact, I think that the wording/instructions are too wordy, a series of pictures would have been more effective.

It would be good to supplement the manual with a how-to video as that seems to be a very effective way to get information through and it's becoming the norm.

I think it's great and the basic MOSFET looks very nicely done. For $20 it's a steal.

horto · August 29th, 2012, 11:01

airsoft store canada has been knocking it out of the park lately... will be ordering one of the simple mosfets for testing purposes

tys let me know if you want to do the install so you can play with it too

m102404 · August 29th, 2012, 11:57

Sure thing Horto. It would be great for the pig and I'd be interested to see how well it can be tucked into a stock pipe.

Pesky · August 29th, 2012, 14:04

Okay now i need a little advice, i was going to get the fancy control unit but now i don't know if i should, i was on the airsoft store canada site and i seen a MOSFET's section, so i did a little reading and it was saying to get a non-Activebraking FET. so i'm left with the basic FET, its obviously a fantastic price but i was wondering does it work as a lipo alarm or does it monitor the battery at all ? and does the basic FET offer the same type of protection that the Advance FET does ? I'm also very new to Lipo's i'm hooked after feeling the trigger response of lipo's so i'm sorry for asking the newbie type questions. but thanks for the help though!

Stealth · August 29th, 2012, 14:12

Yeah we typically don't like to use Active Braking because it's just taxing on the motor. The upside is that it does abruptly stop your motor so if you're running a very high speed setup or a huge battery and motor combo you won't double-shoot on semi and the trigger response will seem more "crisp"

The MERF 3.2 comes with Active Braking and you can't disable it. But it does have all the other bells and whistles that you're looking for like the lipo alarm, short circuit protection and thermal protection, 3rd burst, and Smart Trigger.

The GDS-4005 does not have active braking, nor battery monitoring. But honestly, if you're running a lipo and the ROF drops off suddenly, stop shooting. I never really understood the need for such a thing. When my gun's ROF slows drastically, I'm still at a safe lipo level (>3V per cell)

Again, as with all things, it depends on your setup and your performance goals.

Pesky · August 29th, 2012, 14:20

Okay so that does clear everything up a lot actually, well my setup is almost stock, i'm not trying to go for the crazy 60rps, i mostly want a crisper and better trigger response to be honest i couldn't care less about my ROF

i'm only running a 7.4 so the advance FET is nice with all the bells and whistles but at the same time they kinda don't really apply to me, and your right if i'm playing and i can tell the battery is dying just stop shooting and ill be fine just go home and balance charge the battery and just make sure its in good condition still,

and yeah like i said before i don't really want the crazy fast ROF i'm more so just looking for a more consistent trigger response so i guess the basic FET is a perfect match!

Thanks Stealth!

Stealth · August 30th, 2012, 01:02

Just wrapped up the Unboxing/Overview video.

http://youtu.be/TXSOTUxIUCs

We also have an upcoming video with the GDS-4005 hooked up to a brand new Lonex box running an SP150 spring, 18:1 gears, Lonex A1 motor and 11.1v lipo going all out, so stay tuned for that.

coach · August 30th, 2012, 07:03

Nice video with close ups. Will you be doing an install video for both?

Edit: does the use of the single or double trigger wire eliminate the need for the programming switch?

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View Poll Results: I don't run a MOSFET because...
I lack the tools/skills/knowledge to solder	33	18.03%
I don't run high-voltage LiPo batteries and thus do not see a need	42	22.95%
I find the MOSFET wiring intimidating	24	13.11%
MOSFETs are expensive relative to a new set of trigger contacts	27	14.75%
I think MOSFETs can be unreliable	13	7.10%
I DO run MOSFETs in my AEGs	83	45.36%
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August 29th, 2012, 00:41	#76
ssrc30 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: I live in Grande Prairie Alberta	I don't play often enough to justify using MOSFET. Also, LiPo power isn't something I'm interested in. __________________ "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's

August 29th, 2012, 08:12	#79
Fong242 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sainte-Julie	I love the design but I would be curious to see their heat sink math... Then again we don't have all the specs. Anyone know what microcontroller is on that? A 32 pin Atmel something? I wonder why they need that much IOs... __________________ Valar Morghulis

August 29th, 2012, 07:41	#78
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	Are those..... 16ga solid copper rods on the board? tear so beautiful Now if only someone could build that for a PTW nudge nudge wink wink

August 29th, 2012, 08:24	#80
Pesky Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Newfoundland & Nova Scotia	I also do love you stealth going to be ordering one ASAP i wanted to switch over to XT60 connectors but deans is fine for me! Thank you Stealth! __________________ VFC SR15, VFC MK18 MOD1, LCT ALPHA AK, G&P Stoner 63, CA SLR105, G&G SR25, Echo1 XCR (00741), CA M249, TM G17 & TM SAI G17, TM 1911 NW, TM P226

August 29th, 2012, 09:04	#81
vink Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Toronto	Those installation instructions are terrible. Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2

August 29th, 2012, 09:29	#83
m102404 Tys Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto	Truth be told, they're no worse than a lot of the posts on this forum...and while the grammar/wording is poor it's enough to get the job done. In fact, I think that the wording/instructions are too wordy, a series of pictures would have been more effective. It would be good to supplement the manual with a how-to video as that seems to be a very effective way to get information through and it's becoming the norm. I think it's great and the basic MOSFET looks very nicely done. For $20 it's a steal.

August 29th, 2012, 11:01	#84
horto Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Toronto	airsoft store canada has been knocking it out of the park lately... will be ordering one of the simple mosfets for testing purposes tys let me know if you want to do the install so you can play with it too __________________ H-61 "Acta non verba" They see us rollin, they hatin...

August 29th, 2012, 11:57	#85
m102404 Tys Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto	Sure thing Horto. It would be great for the pig and I'd be interested to see how well it can be tucked into a stock pipe.

August 29th, 2012, 14:04	#86
Pesky Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Newfoundland & Nova Scotia	Okay now i need a little advice, i was going to get the fancy control unit but now i don't know if i should, i was on the airsoft store canada site and i seen a MOSFET's section, so i did a little reading and it was saying to get a non-Activebraking FET. so i'm left with the basic FET, its obviously a fantastic price but i was wondering does it work as a lipo alarm or does it monitor the battery at all ? and does the basic FET offer the same type of protection that the Advance FET does ? I'm also very new to Lipo's i'm hooked after feeling the trigger response of lipo's so i'm sorry for asking the newbie type questions. but thanks for the help though! __________________ VFC SR15, VFC MK18 MOD1, LCT ALPHA AK, G&P Stoner 63, CA SLR105, G&G SR25, Echo1 XCR (00741), CA M249, TM G17 & TM SAI G17, TM 1911 NW, TM P226

August 29th, 2012, 14:12	#87
Stealth Mr. Silencer Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto	Yeah we typically don't like to use Active Braking because it's just taxing on the motor. The upside is that it does abruptly stop your motor so if you're running a very high speed setup or a huge battery and motor combo you won't double-shoot on semi and the trigger response will seem more "crisp" The MERF 3.2 comes with Active Braking and you can't disable it. But it does have all the other bells and whistles that you're looking for like the lipo alarm, short circuit protection and thermal protection, 3rd burst, and Smart Trigger. The GDS-4005 does not have active braking, nor battery monitoring. But honestly, if you're running a lipo and the ROF drops off suddenly, stop shooting. I never really understood the need for such a thing. When my gun's ROF slows drastically, I'm still at a safe lipo level (>3V per cell) Again, as with all things, it depends on your setup and your performance goals.

August 29th, 2012, 14:20	#88
Pesky Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Newfoundland & Nova Scotia	Okay so that does clear everything up a lot actually, well my setup is almost stock, i'm not trying to go for the crazy 60rps, i mostly want a crisper and better trigger response to be honest i couldn't care less about my ROF i'm only running a 7.4 so the advance FET is nice with all the bells and whistles but at the same time they kinda don't really apply to me, and your right if i'm playing and i can tell the battery is dying just stop shooting and ill be fine just go home and balance charge the battery and just make sure its in good condition still, and yeah like i said before i don't really want the crazy fast ROF i'm more so just looking for a more consistent trigger response so i guess the basic FET is a perfect match! Thanks Stealth! __________________ VFC SR15, VFC MK18 MOD1, LCT ALPHA AK, G&P Stoner 63, CA SLR105, G&G SR25, Echo1 XCR (00741), CA M249, TM G17 & TM SAI G17, TM 1911 NW, TM P226

August 30th, 2012, 01:02	#89
Stealth Mr. Silencer Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto	Just wrapped up the Unboxing/Overview video. http://youtu.be/TXSOTUxIUCs We also have an upcoming video with the GDS-4005 hooked up to a brand new Lonex box running an SP150 spring, 18:1 gears, Lonex A1 motor and 11.1v lipo going all out, so stay tuned for that. Last edited by Stealth; August 30th, 2012 at 01:10..

August 30th, 2012, 07:03	#90
coach aka coachster Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: T dot	Nice video with close ups. Will you be doing an install video for both? Edit: does the use of the single or double trigger wire eliminate the need for the programming switch? Last edited by coach; August 30th, 2012 at 07:12..

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