UMP: G&G or STAR?+ Battle of the Bullpups

Spike · September 22nd, 2010, 18:35

I'm kind of leaning towards it too, though I do really want a UMP, but the mag availability, well there's no competition there, 30$ for one UMP mag or $30 for 10 TAR mags...

Also, I've come to accept that I go prone a lot, and those long ass SMG mags may be a problem.

Rooster · September 22nd, 2010, 18:39

Tavor!!! You know you want it..

As for going prone, just turn that son of a bitch sideways! Put a RDS on the side rail. LOL

cjboi · September 22nd, 2010, 18:49

how much is your budget by the way? lol I mean UMP and Tavor will not be in the same range.

Spike · September 22nd, 2010, 19:20

well ideally it will be in the 7-800 range, once I get my m4 sold.

cjboi · September 22nd, 2010, 19:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike

well ideally it will be in the 7-800 range, once I get my m4 sold.

Nice nice... well is it for outdoor use or indoor?

Rabbit · September 22nd, 2010, 19:44

The Tavor will get you a lot of attention. Nothing beats the feeling of bringing a gun to a game and having everyone sexually attracted to it

I got rid of my G&G in exchange for a TM MP5SD6 and was completely satisfied with that decision. I only did so because parts such as mags and even more so the silencer, were extremely expensive and hard to come by. Now with the mp5 I have everything I could want at my disposal.

On a side note, someone earlier mentioned that the G&G will have to have its piston head changed out - you WILL want to do this.

Spike · September 22nd, 2010, 20:25

This will be for outdoor use. I hate long guns, and loved the compact-ness of the UMP when I gamed it. An mp5 is a logical choice, but.....I dont know, I just don't like them.

Rabbit · September 22nd, 2010, 20:42

I can't stand long guns either. I recently picked myself up a CA M15A4 CQB SEALs and I plan to give that a go for a bit.

The MP5 with the retractable stock is tiny.

One major flaw with the UMG was the mags. I like to be able to get a running start and slide in the dirt to a prone position. Crouch down and lay low in some bushes for recon. I found this all very hard with the UMG. When I was crouching and moving through the bush, there was numerous times the bottom of the mag would bash off my knee. The mags are the exact same size in length compared to a p90 mag. You can use the same pouches, vests etc. So if you've ever seen a p90 mag you know what to expect.

MP5SDs are pure sex.
YouTube - MP5/SD Shooting 9mm

Gunny_McSmith · September 22nd, 2010, 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Remylebeau

I can't stand long guns either. I recently picked myself up a CA M15A4 CQB SEALs and I plan to give that a go for a bit.

The MP5 with the retractable stock is tiny.

One major flaw with the UMG was the mags. I like to be able to get a running start and slide in the dirt to a prone position. Crouch down and lay low in some bushes for recon. I found this all very hard with the UMG. When I was crouching and moving through the bush, there was numerous times the bottom of the mag would bash off my knee. The mags are the exact same size in length compared to a p90 mag. You can use the same pouches, vests etc. So if you've ever seen a p90 mag you know what to expect.

MP5SDs are pure sex.
YouTube - MP5/SD Shooting 9mm

+1 for that, I had the G&G UMG.... loved it.... but... mags are rare, and REALY bulky...... also.... battery choice is very limited....

Short Round · September 22nd, 2010, 20:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Remylebeau

I can't stand long guns either. I recently picked myself up a CA M15A4 CQB SEALs and I plan to give that a go for a bit.

The MP5 with the retractable stock is tiny.

One major flaw with the UMG was the mags. I like to be able to get a running start and slide in the dirt to a prone position. Crouch down and lay low in some bushes for recon. I found this all very hard with the UMG. When I was crouching and moving through the bush, there was numerous times the bottom of the mag would bash off my knee. The mags are the exact same size in length compared to a p90 mag. You can use the same pouches, vests etc. So if you've ever seen a p90 mag you know what to expect.

MP5SDs are pure sex.
YouTube - MP5/SD Shooting 9mm

YA! Sub machine guns are where its at!!!!

cjboi · September 22nd, 2010, 21:11

I say go for the tavor, I mean its true what they say about the mag's they're annoying. Tavor is like holding a bigger P90. Submarineman was selling one, but I cant seem to find the price on that gun he's selling. Im guessing he already sold it fast. You will get more range with the Tavor than the UMP for sure, its really good for outdoor.

Spike · September 22nd, 2010, 21:23

He was selling them for 660, if I'm not mistaken, I'll send him a PM.

cjboi · September 22nd, 2010, 21:24

that was before. I think I've seen it for $710 shipped or more. He already took it off. I was talking bout the tan version

DarkAngel · September 22nd, 2010, 22:35

Try it first.
Many people absolutely detest using Bulpups.

I know... Im one of them.

The only Bulpup thats a pleasure to use imho is the P90 due to its top loaded magazine.

Spike · September 22nd, 2010, 22:37

I used to have an AUG, and I loved it. I sold it because I needed cash...I kind of want another one now. Aaaah the choices!

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September 22nd, 2010, 18:35	#16
Spike Privateer Airsoft Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Beaverbank, NS	I'm kind of leaning towards it too, though I do really want a UMP, but the mag availability, well there's no competition there, 30$ for one UMP mag or $30 for 10 TAR mags... Also, I've come to accept that I go prone a lot, and those long ass SMG mags may be a problem. __________________ I change primaries like other people change socks.

September 22nd, 2010, 18:49	#18
cjboi Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: manitoba	how much is your budget by the way? lol I mean UMP and Tavor will not be in the same range. __________________ how can you help someone else if they're not willing to help themselves.

September 22nd, 2010, 19:20	#19
Spike Privateer Airsoft Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Beaverbank, NS	well ideally it will be in the 7-800 range, once I get my m4 sold. __________________ I change primaries like other people change socks.

September 22nd, 2010, 18:39	#17
Rooster a.k.a. flamethis Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: New Brunswick	Tavor!!! You know you want it.. As for going prone, just turn that son of a bitch sideways! Put a RDS on the side rail. LOL

September 22nd, 2010, 19:44	#21
Rabbit formerly FrankieCees, Remylebeau Trader rating Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hamilton	The Tavor will get you a lot of attention. Nothing beats the feeling of bringing a gun to a game and having everyone sexually attracted to it I got rid of my G&G in exchange for a TM MP5SD6 and was completely satisfied with that decision. I only did so because parts such as mags and even more so the silencer, were extremely expensive and hard to come by. Now with the mp5 I have everything I could want at my disposal. On a side note, someone earlier mentioned that the G&G will have to have its piston head changed out - you WILL want to do this.

September 22nd, 2010, 20:25	#22
Spike Privateer Airsoft Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Beaverbank, NS	This will be for outdoor use. I hate long guns, and loved the compact-ness of the UMP when I gamed it. An mp5 is a logical choice, but.....I dont know, I just don't like them. __________________ I change primaries like other people change socks.

September 22nd, 2010, 20:42	#23
Rabbit formerly FrankieCees, Remylebeau Trader rating Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hamilton	I can't stand long guns either. I recently picked myself up a CA M15A4 CQB SEALs and I plan to give that a go for a bit. The MP5 with the retractable stock is tiny. One major flaw with the UMG was the mags. I like to be able to get a running start and slide in the dirt to a prone position. Crouch down and lay low in some bushes for recon. I found this all very hard with the UMG. When I was crouching and moving through the bush, there was numerous times the bottom of the mag would bash off my knee. The mags are the exact same size in length compared to a p90 mag. You can use the same pouches, vests etc. So if you've ever seen a p90 mag you know what to expect. MP5SDs are pure sex. YouTube - MP5/SD Shooting 9mm

September 22nd, 2010, 21:11	#26
cjboi Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: manitoba	I say go for the tavor, I mean its true what they say about the mag's they're annoying. Tavor is like holding a bigger P90. Submarineman was selling one, but I cant seem to find the price on that gun he's selling. Im guessing he already sold it fast. You will get more range with the Tavor than the UMP for sure, its really good for outdoor. __________________ how can you help someone else if they're not willing to help themselves.

September 22nd, 2010, 21:23	#27
Spike Privateer Airsoft Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Beaverbank, NS	He was selling them for 660, if I'm not mistaken, I'll send him a PM. __________________ I change primaries like other people change socks.

September 22nd, 2010, 21:24	#28
cjboi Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: manitoba	that was before. I think I've seen it for $710 shipped or more. He already took it off. I was talking bout the tan version __________________ how can you help someone else if they're not willing to help themselves.

September 22nd, 2010, 22:35	#29
DarkAngel * Age Verifier status suspended * Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Scarborough	Try it first. Many people absolutely detest using Bulpups. I know... Im one of them. The only Bulpup thats a pleasure to use imho is the P90 due to its top loaded magazine. __________________ Certified Sniper Clinic Instructor and Counter Sniper Sentinel Arms Customs - Specializing In Unique, One of a kind guns

September 22nd, 2010, 22:37	#30
Spike Privateer Airsoft Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Beaverbank, NS	I used to have an AUG, and I loved it. I sold it because I needed cash...I kind of want another one now. Aaaah the choices! __________________ I change primaries like other people change socks.

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