Underage airsoft and the new parts rules...

Gunk · July 7th, 2008, 02:16

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Originally Posted by matt491

I can name one hitman-esque member who definitely has taken advantage of the loophole.

Subtle...

matt491 · July 7th, 2008, 02:19

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Originally Posted by Gunk

Subtle...

why, what ever are you talking about...? *innocent voice*

Gunk · July 7th, 2008, 02:28

I'm not talking about anything. That would be rude.

I'm implying however...

Crunchmeister · July 7th, 2008, 02:32

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Originally Posted by mcguyver

But why would you need to buy everything else but the receiver, if you're not supposed to have the gun anyways? Red dots, mags, sling loops mean jack without the gun, so what's the need for these things?

This discussion is moot. The admins made their decision. It's done.

Well, posession of an airsoft gun by a minor is NOT illegal. Only SALE to a minor is. If a parent wants to buy their kid a gun has every right to do so. Now, I personally say that the gun should be in the parent's custody at all times except when it's to be used, and then under parental supervision only, but not all parents feel that way. Hell, I had pellet guns when I was 13 or 14 and my parents couldn't give 2 shits about me having them as long as I didn't do anything stupid with them.

So kids can legitimately have airsoft guns. They just can't buy them themselves. And I agree that they should be allowed to buy all the necessary parts to build their own either.

Lakonian · July 7th, 2008, 02:33

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Originally Posted by matt491

I can name one hitman-esque member who definitely has taken advantage of the loophole.

Yupp.

But he also got his MP5 from shootsoft.....

arman · July 7th, 2008, 02:33

i like the idea because i was scared to buy from a non verfied seller...clears that up. also if the non related airsoft sale thread is for verfied only why not the parts section...

Styrak · July 7th, 2008, 02:49

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Originally Posted by arman

i like the idea because i was scared to buy from a non verfied seller...clears that up. also if the non related airsoft sale thread is for verfied only why not the parts section...

I'm wondering why the gear section isn't age verified only as well now.

matt491 · July 7th, 2008, 03:17

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Originally Posted by Styrak

I'm wondering why the gear section isn't age verified only as well now.

+1 to that. It just makes me feel better knowing I'm buying from someone 18 or older. Simply a maturity thing. Lets me know I've got a much higher chance that I wont get ripped off and not have some 12 year old think he can just take my money and not ship me a product.

Gunk · July 7th, 2008, 03:22

You don't have to be 12 to ship a block of wood or a rock in place of the item you're expecting...

But with verified members, you know someone, somewhere, met this guy, and it'll be possible (and probably pretty easy) to track the scum bag down.

Styrak · July 7th, 2008, 03:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt491

+1 to that. It just makes me feel better knowing I'm buying from someone 18 or older. Simply a maturity thing. Lets me know I've got a much higher chance that I wont get ripped off and not have some 12 year old think he can just take my money and not ship me a product.

Add to that the fact that they could possibly also sell in the other sections (or all sections), giving them some trader feedback sooner/more often, which in turn gives you peace of mind to buy from someone.

arman · July 7th, 2008, 03:24

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Originally Posted by Gunk

You don't have to be 12 to ship a block of wood or a rock in place of the time you're expecting...

But with verified members, you know someone, somewhere, met this guy, and it'll be possible (and probably pretty easy) to track the scum bag down.

+1

Janus · July 7th, 2008, 05:08

For the record, the only people who would have a problem with the parts section being restricted to age verified people only are the minors

My spidey sense is tingling, indicating that the restriction in question is both reasonable and effective.

Optimus88 · July 7th, 2008, 05:48

It's simple logic my friends, you shouldn't need to buy parts unless you have the gun and you shouldn't have the gun unless you are over 18. Therefore only people over 18 need to see the parts section.

Lisa · July 7th, 2008, 07:07

Please read the FAQ on age verification. Parents have been turned down more often than not.

Shrike · July 7th, 2008, 08:36

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Originally Posted by Wilson

I support the decision. Non age-verified individuals were taking advantage of the loophole in the system and building AEGs from parts - closing the parts area to non verified personnel was a smart move.

+1

I'm very happy to see this happening. If you have someone legally resposible for you (underage players) who play the sport you will have no trouble getting what you need.

In the past two weeks I've taken my nephew to buy parts for "his" gun, He's happy and underage. I'm legally responsible (and his mom) for his actions and with the ASC support he KNOWS the beatings he would get comes from my team, not me if anything were to arise :P

He plays WITH me, no babysitting for other players to worry about.

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July 7th, 2008, 02:28	#18
Gunk In his Trunk! Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mostly Canada	I'm not talking about anything. That would be rude. I'm implying however... __________________ "War must be, while we defend our lives against a destroyer who would devour all; but I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend: the city of the Men of Numenor, and I would have her loved for her memory, her ancientry, her beauty, and her present wisdom. Not feared, save as men may fear the dignity of a man, old and wise." - J.R.R. Tolkien

July 7th, 2008, 02:33	#21
arman Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Windsor, Ont.	i like the idea because i was scared to buy from a non verfied seller...clears that up. also if the non related airsoft sale thread is for verfied only why not the parts section... __________________ playing with my kid!

July 7th, 2008, 03:22	#24
Gunk In his Trunk! Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mostly Canada	You don't have to be 12 to ship a block of wood or a rock in place of the item you're expecting... But with verified members, you know someone, somewhere, met this guy, and it'll be possible (and probably pretty easy) to track the scum bag down. __________________ "War must be, while we defend our lives against a destroyer who would devour all; but I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend: the city of the Men of Numenor, and I would have her loved for her memory, her ancientry, her beauty, and her present wisdom. Not feared, save as men may fear the dignity of a man, old and wise." - J.R.R. Tolkien Last edited by Gunk; July 7th, 2008 at 03:25.. Reason: Why do 'time' and 'item' have to be so damn similar?

July 7th, 2008, 05:08	#27
Janus Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Red Deer, AB	For the record, the only people who would have a problem with the parts section being restricted to age verified people only are the minors My spidey sense is tingling, indicating that the restriction in question is both reasonable and effective. __________________ Age Verifier - Lower Vancouver Island Brotherhood of Nod - Nod Prime \|\| Vancouver Island Airsoft League - President Unavailable for AV until April 2020.

July 7th, 2008, 05:48	#28
Optimus88 Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Montreal, QC	It's simple logic my friends, you shouldn't need to buy parts unless you have the gun and you shouldn't have the gun unless you are over 18. Therefore only people over 18 need to see the parts section.

July 7th, 2008, 07:07	#29
Lisa Looking for form T-whatev Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Trenton	Please read the FAQ on age verification. Parents have been turned down more often than not. __________________ May you live in interesting times. ASCMART, your smart choice

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