This MAY change airsoft as we know it

Long_Bong · July 24th, 2008, 20:17

Hi,

The title is asking for this post to be shot down in flame, but anyway, this stroke my attention as something quite interesting. I m working for a well know (the only) prohibited firearm dustributor in Quebec (maybe Ontario, but I don t think they are alone in the Ontario market) this week. They have the heavy duty craps, for example 2 MK 19 Automatic GL in stock as of now (they supplied DND)! Anything short of an AT-4, they are the people that get in in country... Anyway, they are now selling the Sig Sauer airsoft line (see link). This mean (after checking with a firearm saleman there) that you could purchase these airsoft gun from a distributor (Dante for example). As long as there is a red tip, there should be no issue. Some order have already been placed for Sig P226 GBB. Needless to say, this would imply that you could get a GBB (no clearsoft...) thru a regular channel in Quebec at least. Again, it has to be tried, but the material is available thru a supplier (and for me, that a start). If I was a distributor, I could purchase it basically.

Now, the other detail that stroke my mind. See how the airsoft weapon are presented in the Sig brochure this year.

http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/Sho...?categoryid=51

On the paper version (I will scan it once at work):

Airsoft
These are the ultimate in training and practice weapons. Our gas-operated replica models feature metal slides and frames, giving them the same durability, weight, and feel as the real thing. Airsoft Guns shoot 6mm pellets and each is flagged with an orange muzzle indicator for safety.

Now, (from my understanding) this mean that a serious gun manufacturer is considering airsoft as a training tool (Sig also has a training school). If other manufacturers jump in, airsoft may become more wide spread as a training tool (hence either be more restricted or more accepted...).

Anyway, it MAY change airsoft, until then, I will try to get that P226 thru regular channel. Now watch the irony when it will be more expensive to get it there rather then by a ASC retailler like MOPIC let said...

Kokanee · July 24th, 2008, 20:21

This has been known for a good year at least. However the fact that a CDN distributor already has them in country is new indeed.

So what is stopping you (or anyone) from purchasing these?

Tankdude · July 24th, 2008, 20:22

Funny how they have a EG1000 motor in it.

265 fps with .2

Bet you a bullet they are rebranding something.

Long_Bong · July 24th, 2008, 20:23

Sorry for being a newbee

Has anyone attempted to purchase a Sig replica since? (I believe that they are starting to become available on the normal market, in Quebec at least).

Ridiculous132 · July 24th, 2008, 20:23

Why the red tip? We're in Canada right?

The Saint · July 24th, 2008, 20:25

This changes nothing at all. Replica firearm has always been legal to import for the purposes of training public officers.

Please do your homework before making such a bold claim.

Yannos · July 24th, 2008, 20:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ridiculous132

Why the red tip? We're in Canada right?

Because SIG is a US based company. So they do their Airsoft product with orange tip. Its a US regulation to have a orange tip on a training device.

Long_Bong · July 24th, 2008, 20:26

Probably because they are targeting the IS market, the brochure I m quoting is aimed at the US market. And since we are too small to be a market on our own (IMO), I would expect that SIG would not modify the red tip for canada item, but just use the same version as the us (wuth red tip). Again, that my guess.

Sergeantmajor · July 24th, 2008, 20:27

this stuff might just fuck up the distributor.

Combine · July 24th, 2008, 20:27

Il take red tip over clear any day !

So how does this concern normal airsofters, we cant order through your distributor can we? no that makes no sense..

Long_Bong · July 24th, 2008, 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Saint

This changes nothing at all. Replica firearm has always been legal to import for the purposes of training public officers.

Please do your homework before making such a bold claim.

I agree with your point, and I will do my homework by trying to order one from a supplier. Until then, indeed it is just supposition (backed by the company importing the item stating that you should have no issue getting it thru regular channel). Again, I m mentionning this because they have just started to arrive on the regular market (in Quebec at least). And the fact that Sig is considering airsoft as a training tool is quite something in my humble opinion.

Lakonian · July 24th, 2008, 20:30

Dood, those (226/229) are KJW.

Seriously read up on it. KJW is (apparently) being contracted by sig to make these. Hell, there's a few on sale in the classifieds right now.

Long_Bong · July 24th, 2008, 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Combine

Il take red tip over clear any day !

So how does this concern normal airsofters, we cant order through your distributor can we? no that makes no sense..

That is what I will try, to order it throught the retailler who has started to have the item in inventory. I ll post the outcome.

Long_Bong · July 24th, 2008, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos

Dood, those (226/229) are KJW.

Seriously read up on it. KJW is (apparently) being contracted by sig to make these. Hell, there's a few on sale in the classifieds right now.

I agree and I m aware of this. But they were not released on the regular (non ASC market if you prefer) since about a couple of week (in Quebec at least).

Basically, now you could (in theory) get them on your own...

Danke · July 24th, 2008, 20:36

Aren't those the ones that hand grenading in the other PTP thread going on?

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July 24th, 2008, 20:17	#1
Long_Bong Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada	This MAY change airsoft as we know it Hi, The title is asking for this post to be shot down in flame, but anyway, this stroke my attention as something quite interesting. I m working for a well know (the only) prohibited firearm dustributor in Quebec (maybe Ontario, but I don t think they are alone in the Ontario market) this week. They have the heavy duty craps, for example 2 MK 19 Automatic GL in stock as of now (they supplied DND)! Anything short of an AT-4, they are the people that get in in country... Anyway, they are now selling the Sig Sauer airsoft line (see link). This mean (after checking with a firearm saleman there) that you could purchase these airsoft gun from a distributor (Dante for example). As long as there is a red tip, there should be no issue. Some order have already been placed for Sig P226 GBB. Needless to say, this would imply that you could get a GBB (no clearsoft...) thru a regular channel in Quebec at least. Again, it has to be tried, but the material is available thru a supplier (and for me, that a start). If I was a distributor, I could purchase it basically. Now, the other detail that stroke my mind. See how the airsoft weapon are presented in the Sig brochure this year. http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/Sho...?categoryid=51 On the paper version (I will scan it once at work): Airsoft These are the ultimate in training and practice weapons. Our gas-operated replica models feature metal slides and frames, giving them the same durability, weight, and feel as the real thing. Airsoft Guns shoot 6mm pellets and each is flagged with an orange muzzle indicator for safety. Now, (from my understanding) this mean that a serious gun manufacturer is considering airsoft as a training tool (Sig also has a training school). If other manufacturers jump in, airsoft may become more wide spread as a training tool (hence either be more restricted or more accepted...). Anyway, it MAY change airsoft, until then, I will try to get that P226 thru regular channel. Now watch the irony when it will be more expensive to get it there rather then by a ASC retailler like MOPIC let said... __________________

July 24th, 2008, 20:23	#4
Long_Bong Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada	Sorry for being a newbee Has anyone attempted to purchase a Sig replica since? (I believe that they are starting to become available on the normal market, in Quebec at least). __________________

July 24th, 2008, 20:25	#6
The Saint Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec	This changes nothing at all. Replica firearm has always been legal to import for the purposes of training public officers. Please do your homework before making such a bold claim. __________________ "The Bird of Hermes is My Name, Eating My Wings to Make Me Tame."

July 24th, 2008, 20:21	#2
Kokanee Ministry of Peace Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2002	This has been known for a good year at least. However the fact that a CDN distributor already has them in country is new indeed. So what is stopping you (or anyone) from purchasing these?

July 24th, 2008, 20:22	#3
Tankdude Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Coast, New Brunswick	Funny how they have a EG1000 motor in it. 265 fps with .2 Bet you a bullet they are rebranding something.

July 24th, 2008, 20:23	#5
Ridiculous132 Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sherbrooke	Why the red tip? We're in Canada right?

July 24th, 2008, 20:26	#8
Long_Bong Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada	Probably because they are targeting the IS market, the brochure I m quoting is aimed at the US market. And since we are too small to be a market on our own (IMO), I would expect that SIG would not modify the red tip for canada item, but just use the same version as the us (wuth red tip). Again, that my guess. __________________

July 24th, 2008, 20:27	#9
Sergeantmajor Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada	this stuff might just fuck up the distributor. __________________ "Lieutenant John Chard: The army doesn't like more than one disaster in a day. Bromhead: Looks bad in the newspapers and upsets civilians at their breakfast." - ZULU (1964)

July 24th, 2008, 20:27	#10
Combine Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alymer, Quebec	Il take red tip over clear any day ! So how does this concern normal airsofters, we cant order through your distributor can we? no that makes no sense.. __________________

July 24th, 2008, 20:30	#12
Lakonian kos Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wherever.	Dood, those (226/229) are KJW. Seriously read up on it. KJW is (apparently) being contracted by sig to make these. Hell, there's a few on sale in the classifieds right now.

July 24th, 2008, 20:36	#15
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	Aren't those the ones that hand grenading in the other PTP thread going on?

This MAY change airsoft as we know it

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