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Old July 7th, 2008, 00:21   #1
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Underage airsoft and the new parts rules...

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When i Heard the news that the buy and sell parts section would soon be becoming age restricted i thought it was too bad, I personally am underage, but i try to be responsible with my AEG, but thats not important, I'm curious to the ASC's thoughts about this subject...

Do you agree with making the sale of parts and accessory's 18+?
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Old July 7th, 2008, 00:32   #2
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Agree or not, this was a decision a long time coming and the admins of this board thought it appropriate.

And that's pretty much the end of this thread.
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Old July 7th, 2008, 00:37   #3
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Well I don't see why we should restrict the selling of red dot sights to minors, I do think that minors should not be allowed to buy anything that is restricted to import, such as receivers. Restricting the parts section makes it just that tiny bit harder for minors to get their hands on a working airsoft gun, and so it is a good thing.
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Old July 7th, 2008, 00:45   #4
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Yes, but how would they go about classifying what can and cannot be sold to minors? It's easier for the mods to use the same coding for the AEG and spring/gas gun restriction than it is to create a new section devoted for underage parts.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old July 7th, 2008, 00:48   #5
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I support the decision. Non age-verified individuals were taking advantage of the loophole in the system and building AEGs from parts - closing the parts area to non verified personnel was a smart move.
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Old July 7th, 2008, 00:49   #6
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The thing is, if an underage member was patient, they could basically buy all the necessary parts to build an AEG from the parts section. It's been a "back door" to the age-verification system that I'm sure has been quietly exploited by more than a few underage members. I was a lurker on this forum for about 2 months before I signed up and got verified. I discovered that hole before I even signed up. But being 37, I figured just getting verified would be a better idea... LOL

Seriously though, there were many parted out guns sold that were only a few minor (and easy to get) parts short from being a full AEG. I'm sure that someone with the money and attentively paying attention to the parts section could probably assemble a full MP5, Armalite or AK from parts bought from different sellers in the matter of a couple of weeks if they wanted to. In that sense, I totally agree with the decision. Any parts that an underage gun owner could need are legally available new in Canada without age restriction, so a place like www.airsoftparts.ca.

On the other hand I can sympathize with the loss of access to cheaper, used parts and accessories. And it's never any fun to lose privileges you once had before either. It sucks, but it was done for good reason.

You know, if the parts & accessories forum were split, the parts could be kept age-restricted, but the accessories section could remain open to all.
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Old July 7th, 2008, 00:49   #7
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If your too young to be verified, get a parent of yours verified.

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Why not just make the sale of receivers/body's 18+?

That way kids can still buy everything else, but without a body you cant exactly build a gun.

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Old July 7th, 2008, 01:23   #8
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But why would you need to buy everything else but the receiver, if you're not supposed to have the gun anyways? Red dots, mags, sling loops mean jack without the gun, so what's the need for these things?

This discussion is moot. The admins made their decision. It's done.
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If your too young to be verified, get a parent of yours verified.
Age verifiers aren't supposed to be verifying PARENTS of people.

And yes someone could easily build a gun out of parts on the classifieds, if they know how to put it together.

The only parts that people can't get anywhere else easily are receivers, which are sold in the classifieds fairly often. No receiver, no gun.
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Old July 7th, 2008, 01:47   #10
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i approve of the making the parts and accessories age verified only!
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Old July 7th, 2008, 01:52   #11
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Age verifiers aren't supposed to be verifying PARENTS of people.

And yes someone could easily build a gun out of parts on the classifieds, if they know how to put it together.
Anybody can be verified as long as they are 18+ with picture ID.

Parents included.
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Old July 7th, 2008, 01:54   #12
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There is nothing wrong with selling a red dot to a minor. Because of the shaky legal position of airsoft in this country the community self-polices itself in an effort to ensure its continued survival. To that end, this decision was made.
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i approve of the making the parts and accessories age verified only!
Taking one for the team eh?

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Anybody can be verified as long as they are 18+ with picture ID.

Parents included.
Good thing you aren't an age verifier then.
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Taking one for the team eh?



Good thing you aren't an age verifier then.
less then a year to go for me so fuck it why not lol
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Old July 7th, 2008, 02:14   #15
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The thing is, if an underage member was patient, they could basically buy all the necessary parts to build an AEG from the parts section. It's been a "back door" to the age-verification system that I'm sure has been quietly exploited by more than a few underage members.
I can name one hitman-esque member who definitely has taken advantage of the loophole.
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