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Old July 14th, 2007, 21:58   #31
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Mine's arriving on tuesday! w00t! Time to save up my next $650 just for the rail. Damn, I could buy another AEG for that price... lol
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Old July 14th, 2007, 22:08   #32
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I take it the front ends are interchangeable? Also.. does anyone know what the receiver is made from? It's not T7 aluminum, is it?
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Old July 14th, 2007, 22:21   #33
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I take it the front ends are interchangeable? Also.. does anyone know what the receiver is made from? It's not T7 aluminum, is it?
They break down just about exactly like a real M4. Being milspec standard in proportion means being able to use rails you couldn't put on a typical AEG (without involved modification). The receiver is regular cast aluminum. Systema made concessions for legal and cost reasons - the gun can never be made to fire a real bullet with a cast aluminum receiver.
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Old July 15th, 2007, 01:46   #34
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But it's popular in Europe to buy real AR receivers and use them for a PTW. Some guys have done 80% lowers, stripped uppers and stripped lowers.

For obvious reasons, you wouldn't want to do that in Canada, uppers excepted though.
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Old July 15th, 2007, 09:37   #35
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Looks good i will have to post a pic of mine
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Old July 15th, 2007, 09:47   #36
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MacGuyver whats your take on the new generation PTW's? Is it worth while selling off my Systema and upgrading to a newer version? Or are they still comparable enough?

Asking Mac this because he's probably owned and operated more Systema's then most people ever will.
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Old July 15th, 2007, 10:22   #37
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Something bout the rail covering u just a tiny bit of the flashhider, and the flashhider/rail combo.. just make it look badass.
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Old July 15th, 2007, 11:16   #38
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MacGuyver whats your take on the new generation PTW's? Is it worth while selling off my Systema and upgrading to a newer version? Or are they still comparable enough?

Asking Mac this because he's probably owned and operated more Systema's then most people ever will.

I took a huge gamble selling off all my other guns to buy the new PTWs. I really had no idea how the MAX guns would perform as the my old M16A3 has performance like a mildly upgraded AEG.

The new ones just blow anything else away.

I have range and accuracy with a CQB-R that guys with heavily upgraded M14s or M16s can't match. I can alter my platform from CQB and 300 fps to long-distance shooting at 500 fps in less than a minute (including battery change).

Now, the cylinder kits for the M16 are not compatible with the M4, but parts are available to to make them compatible for about $150. You can make your old M16 perform just like a new MAX gun for about $700, including new lower gearbox, motor, tightbore barrel kit, spring guide and cylinder lock kit and electronics. Considering you'll pay $2k minimum for a new one, you can bring your old one up to current performance standards for the cost of upgrading a Marui to basic performance standards. And the work will take about an hour to do and is quite simple really.

After buying the MAX M4's and fielding them now a few times, I can say it's worth selling all your other guns and focusing just on them. I wouldn't sell your M16, as the platform for unbelievable performance is basically there, you just need a few parts to bring up to that level.
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Old July 15th, 2007, 12:40   #39
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Depending on your point of view, Brad is either the best guy or worst guy to ask if you should spend money on PTWs, lol.
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Old July 15th, 2007, 12:48   #40
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Oh yeah, I meant to point out its possible to see Bruces Eotech lens protector on the 512, still going strong after a couple years. A great investment. THanks to you bud.
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Old July 15th, 2007, 12:49   #41
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Old July 15th, 2007, 20:50   #42
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That case is unbelievably sick.

Where did you get the laser cutting done?
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Old July 15th, 2007, 20:56   #43
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Great finish man, not to draw attention away from the awsome PTW, but what grip is that on your Sig? 228 or 6?
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Old July 15th, 2007, 21:26   #44
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Thanks guys The case is a Pelican 1720. I used an electric knife to cut out the shapes. It looks better in the picture :P I learned as I went so there are a couple 'wows' in the lines.

The SIG is a Marui base with the Guarder metal frame and slide. It has 'real steel' Pachmayr grips installed, which worked in the end, but took a lot of dremelling.
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Old July 15th, 2007, 22:15   #45
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what paint did you use on the sig? we did the "combat" mod to a teammate's sig recently with a layer of krylon but it wears easy. yours looks glossier.
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