Echo 1 E90 (P90) review

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by kalnaren

The review on Arnies stated that the E90 has a two stage trigger not unlike the AUG when the selector is set to full auto. Can you confirm that?

Not that it answers your question, but the TM P90 trigger is not dual stage.
However, it's very easy to squeeze off single shots without starting the cycle into a second shot (half-cocked piston, etc).

[Crunchmeister]

I don't think the trigger is really dual stage as on the AUG. The AUG doesn't have a fire selector and relies on the 2-stage trigger for semi and full auto. The P/E90 has a fire selector. But lightly depressing the trigger on full auto did set off only a single shot, whereas squeezing it all the way went full-auto. I could do this on the TM P90 I tried as well so don't think it's specific to the Echo 1.

[kalnaren]

Just got my E90. I don't think it's quite as solid as the TM (but pretty damned close) and the mags definetly aren't as solid, but considering it's about half the price, no complaints.

When set to full auto, the trigger definetly has 2 settings. About a 2/3 depress cycles the mechbox once (even when held, it does one full cycle), and a full depress fires in full auto. I don't ever remember being able to do this on the TM.

You're right Crunch, this thing is fun to shoot! One question though.. how the hell did you get the plastic flashider off? Mine didn't come with a metal one and I want to see if my supressor will go on it.

[cbcsteve]

Aww I was going to get one but hearing that its not 100% TM copy leaves my mouth a bit dry. But not too dry cause its not that bad seeing how you guys still find it good.

But the cheaper mags sounds really nice

The TM P90 I once had worked in the rain (light rain) in the forest which probably has enough moisture to mess things up but it kept on kicking. Though I admit the trigger didn't seem the same after, had to readjust and lube it. But it still worked like a charm

[chaosnemesis]

I've got both tm(outdoor setup) and echo1(cqb) and both have a 2 stage trigger.

The orange flash hider was screwed on with a small amount of clear glue (no idea of the type). I used pliers to twist it off. Chewed up the plastic but my box DID include a black metal replacement.

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by chaosnemesis

I've got both tm(outdoor setup) and echo1(cqb) and both have a 2 stage trigger.

The orange flash hider was screwed on with a small amount of clear glue (no idea of the type). I used pliers to twist it off. Chewed up the plastic but my box DID include a black metal replacement.

It seemes everyone's E90 did include a metal flashhider.. mine didn't . I just stuck a SOCOM supressor on it for now. It looks decent enough.

[DethHead]

sorry if im resurrecting an older thread, but does anyone know of a retail who actually orders these in??

[Short Round]

Sorry if I anger anyone by resurrecting this thread. Just wanted to know what battery I should buy to replace the less effiecent one it comes with

[ShelledPants]

Originally Posted by Najohn

Sorry if I anger anyone by resurrecting this thread. Just wanted to know what battery I should buy to replace the less effiecent one it comes with

You can get 9.6v mini "J" batteries which will fit. <--- Wrong answer. Read below.

[Crunchmeister]

J battery won't fit the E90. The J battery is a 9.6V made with 2/3A mini cells and designed for the TM P90. Echo 1 have made a small adjustment to the internals of the battery compartment allowing the use of a side-by-side 9.6V mini battery, like the one that comes with it.

However, those aren't typically available. I would recommend going to www.cheapbatterypacks.com and build yourself a custom 9.6v 1500 mAh pack using Elite cells. It will cost about the same as a cheapo battery back would, but it's made with the best cells on the market and quality wiring and workmanship.

[ShelledPants]

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister

J battery won't fit the E90. The J battery is a 9.6V made with 2/3A mini cells and designed for the TM P90. Echo 1 have made a small adjustment to the internals of the battery compartment allowing the use of a side-by-side 9.6V mini battery, like the one that comes with it.

However, those aren't typically available. I would recommend going to www.cheapbatterypacks.com and build yourself a custom 9.6v 1500 mAh pack using Elite cells. It will cost about the same as a cheapo battery back would, but it's made with the best cells on the market and quality wiring and workmanship.

My apologies, I was under the impression the Echo1 was a clone (body wise) of the TM.

Another solution would be to dabble with Li-Po batteries, a 7.4v is smaller than an 8.4mini and will have the same power as an 8.4v large.

[Short Round]

I'll try that

[squeenix]

Does anyone know where I could get one of these in Canada, the classifieds?

[MoreToasties]

Originally Posted by squeenix

Does anyone know where I could get one of these in Canada, the classifieds?

Yep.

Theyre much more expensive than Krakens though.

[squeenix]

Before I decide to get AVed, do you know approx how much they cost in the classifieds?