NYPD ESU

Mordarski J.A. · September 8th, 2008, 04:28

Hey everyone, got a question. I've been looking through all sorts of NYPD ESU (Emergency Services Unit aka SWAT-esque for those who didn't know) photos and can't quite nail down exactly what ESU officers carry for a sidearm.

I suppose I should start by mentioning that a few friends and I began working on a Halloween costume as full uniform LAPD police officers a few years ago. Since we only carry rubber band guns when we're out and about to parties, it was never an issue as to what the holster was. Especially since the standard for Los Angeles is the Beretta M92. Well, 2008 is the last year we're doing our LAPD costume and for 2009 we're working on an NYPD motif. Again, as street-level officers, the uniform/costume is fairly simple. However, then I got to thinking about doing a SWAT-type loadout for airsoft. Since the most common SWAT theme is Los Angeles, I thought I'd try something new.

And now, back to the facts!

According to Wikipedia (NYPD), the standard service pistol for the NYPD is a DAO (Double Action Only) pistol, and the three authorized models are the SIG Sauer P226, Smith & Wesson 5906, and the Glock 19. However, nowhere does it specifically state what the ESU carries.

I would personally assume for an airsoft rendition that a Glock 17 with a SureFire M3 TacLite would suffice (the Glock 19 is too small for my hand), but I thought I'd see if someone was better informed than I before I start shelling out massive amounts of money to pick up the right equipment.

808 · September 8th, 2008, 13:45

I imagine they would use a P226. I'm pretty sure I saw a photo of an ESU officer with a P226.

T_A_N_K · September 8th, 2008, 13:45

Its probably personal preference, but in the pic below, looks like hes using a S&W 5906 Tactical

AngelusNex · September 8th, 2008, 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_A_N_K

Its probably personal preference, but in the pic below, looks like hes using a S&W 5906 Tactical

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with a p226 in the holster O.o

Mordarski J.A. · September 9th, 2008, 04:38

Yeah, I saw that pic and always found it rather odd. Perhaps now he has an excuse......drop gun?

Mind you, that's mostly why I'm concerned with the sidearm. Being the entry guy with the shield (once I can get one LOL) I'd be entering with the pistol wrapped around the shield. I already have a TM SIG 226R (full metal upgrades) but just need new mags for it. I'll still be picking up a Glock for the street-level impression though.

mopic · September 9th, 2008, 09:03

A lot of it comes down to price. Unlike here an NYPD officer must buy all his own kit; including a firearm. The price of a P226 is twice+ that of the Smith or the Glock. Also of note, the trigger pull for an NYPD pistol must be no less than 8.5 Lbs, standard pull for a glock is 5.5 lbs. The 19 was chosen over the 17 because of off duty carry, as you know the 19 is a fair bit easier to carry than a full duty sized 17, many officer could not afford two pistols. In most cases nypd officers I believe are required to carry off duty. They also must live in the 5 boroughs or Long Island. Unlike here only 15% of Toronto officers live in the 416.
In my times in NY, you still see the Mini-14's in use with ESU

CrazyWithAGun · January 20th, 2009, 04:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sepulcrum

with a p226 in the holster O.o

He would have to drop the shield to reload, not to mention the term "New York reload".

And I think thats another 5906.

Beazer · January 20th, 2009, 16:07

I've heard of the Kimber's gaining fame in other departments aside from LAPD.

Mordarski J.A. · January 20th, 2009, 16:28

It'd be nice if there was a bit closer of a photo. When I was in New York this past September (following BW2), I had the opporuntity to see the NYPD carrying the S&W 5906 first hand.

Mordarski J.A. · September 18th, 2009, 10:53

Ha ha, necro-posting in my own thread.....nice!

So a bit of an update, I've acquired some of my kit and am doing preliminary work on my uniform. With Halloween around the corner, we're now into crunch time and things are moving along nicely. I'll post pics/updates when I have them, in addition to a list of what I'm using. For reference, this endeavor is not for the faint of heart.....so far the loadout is pegged at upwards of $1100, and I've still got to pick up a few things.

Leopard2a6m · September 18th, 2009, 11:42

Your nuts, Why dont you spend some of that money on fixing up your M-4 so all the plastic doesnt need to be held on with gun tape. lol

Mordarski J.A. · September 18th, 2009, 13:22

That's ELECTRICAL tape right now LOL.

And now to ask all the ASC geardo's for some help......anyone know what vests these are?

Also seen in T_A_N_K's post too. As it stands I'm not looking at picking up the vest immediately, but I'd prefer to have a basis to find something non-ballistic rated for airsoft/Halloween.

Mordarski J.A. · September 30th, 2010, 19:03

Here I go necro'ing my own thread from a year ago......hard to believe time passes that quickly, eh? I have acquired patches and a vest, still working on the actual uniform. I'll post pics up shortly (hopefully by the weekend) and start showing all the progress.

Mordarski J.A. · May 18th, 2011, 03:02

Christ almighty, I'm necro-ing my own damned post AGAIN!!

I finally got around to uploading the damned pics of my gear. Now, not everything is 100% accurate but I got as close as I possibly could. I did take a bit of liberties on certain items as there was no exactly specific equipment listed anywhere.

Without further ado............

NYPD ESU vest (front)
- Lower: 4x double STANAG magazine pouch (to be used with AR15 carbine rifle)
- Upper: (L) Cell phone case; (R) Double pistol magazine pouch

NYPD ESU vest medical pouch (on left side)

NYPD ESU vest (back)

NYPD ESU vest (back) with plate removed

Gun belt - Complete view

Gun belt - Right side including Safariland 6004 holster (SIG Sauer P226 with X300 UBL)

Gun belt - Right rear (L-R: NYPD issued handcuff case, ASP baton case)

Gun belt - Left side (L-R: Pistol magazine pouch, Surefire 6P carrier, Motorola Saber radio)

The only additions I have to make with the belt is a key carrier. Once I have the shirt completed I'll post up more photos.

tonyshiphoto · September 15th, 2011, 15:43

the NYPD ESU vest are custom made in ballistic lvl 3 called "turtle neck"
which is destined to be replaced with the new Hornet vest, which is basically a law enforcement version of the U.S.M.C. Modular Tactical Vest (MTV).

The OCCB of NYPD has just accuquired these new vest and set to assist ESU in case of a Mumbai style terror attack on the NYC soil.

Items are carried differently by the ESU members depends on their role, some carry extra ammos and some carry medicals.

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September 8th, 2008, 04:28	#1
Mordarski J.A. formerly Blinky Trader rating Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lindsay ON	NYPD ESU Hey everyone, got a question. I've been looking through all sorts of NYPD ESU (Emergency Services Unit aka SWAT-esque for those who didn't know) photos and can't quite nail down exactly what ESU officers carry for a sidearm. I suppose I should start by mentioning that a few friends and I began working on a Halloween costume as full uniform LAPD police officers a few years ago. Since we only carry rubber band guns when we're out and about to parties, it was never an issue as to what the holster was. Especially since the standard for Los Angeles is the Beretta M92. Well, 2008 is the last year we're doing our LAPD costume and for 2009 we're working on an NYPD motif. Again, as street-level officers, the uniform/costume is fairly simple. However, then I got to thinking about doing a SWAT-type loadout for airsoft. Since the most common SWAT theme is Los Angeles, I thought I'd try something new. And now, back to the facts! According to Wikipedia (NYPD), the standard service pistol for the NYPD is a DAO (Double Action Only) pistol, and the three authorized models are the SIG Sauer P226, Smith & Wesson 5906, and the Glock 19. However, nowhere does it specifically state what the ESU carries. I would personally assume for an airsoft rendition that a Glock 17 with a SureFire M3 TacLite would suffice (the Glock 19 is too small for my hand), but I thought I'd see if someone was better informed than I before I start shelling out massive amounts of money to pick up the right equipment. __________________ Josh Mordarski South Manitoba Rifles Non Sibi Sed Omnibus Age Verifier - Manitoba Current Armoury: WE C7A1 x2 - WE M14 DMR - WE L85A2 CA C8 - CA SLR105 - TM FAMAS WE Browning Hi-Power - Tanaka Browning Hi-Power WE M1911 - KWA SIG Sauer P226 - KSC SIG Sauer P229

September 8th, 2008, 13:45	#2
808 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 6mm-mag.com - Winnipeg	I imagine they would use a P226. I'm pretty sure I saw a photo of an ESU officer with a P226. __________________

September 9th, 2008, 04:38	#5
Mordarski J.A. formerly Blinky Trader rating Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lindsay ON	Yeah, I saw that pic and always found it rather odd. Perhaps now he has an excuse......drop gun? Mind you, that's mostly why I'm concerned with the sidearm. Being the entry guy with the shield (once I can get one LOL) I'd be entering with the pistol wrapped around the shield. I already have a TM SIG 226R (full metal upgrades) but just need new mags for it. I'll still be picking up a Glock for the street-level impression though. __________________ Josh Mordarski South Manitoba Rifles Non Sibi Sed Omnibus Age Verifier - Manitoba Current Armoury: WE C7A1 x2 - WE M14 DMR - WE L85A2 CA C8 - CA SLR105 - TM FAMAS WE Browning Hi-Power - Tanaka Browning Hi-Power WE M1911 - KWA SIG Sauer P226 - KSC SIG Sauer P229

September 8th, 2008, 13:45	#3
T_A_N_K Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006	Its probably personal preference, but in the pic below, looks like hes using a S&W 5906 Tactical

September 9th, 2008, 09:03	#6
mopic Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Scarborough	A lot of it comes down to price. Unlike here an NYPD officer must buy all his own kit; including a firearm. The price of a P226 is twice+ that of the Smith or the Glock. Also of note, the trigger pull for an NYPD pistol must be no less than 8.5 Lbs, standard pull for a glock is 5.5 lbs. The 19 was chosen over the 17 because of off duty carry, as you know the 19 is a fair bit easier to carry than a full duty sized 17, many officer could not afford two pistols. In most cases nypd officers I believe are required to carry off duty. They also must live in the 5 boroughs or Long Island. Unlike here only 15% of Toronto officers live in the 416. In my times in NY, you still see the Mini-14's in use with ESU

January 20th, 2009, 16:07	#8
Beazer Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Calgary	I've heard of the Kimber's gaining fame in other departments aside from LAPD.

January 20th, 2009, 16:28	#9
Mordarski J.A. formerly Blinky Trader rating Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lindsay ON	It'd be nice if there was a bit closer of a photo. When I was in New York this past September (following BW2), I had the opporuntity to see the NYPD carrying the S&W 5906 first hand. __________________ Josh Mordarski South Manitoba Rifles Non Sibi Sed Omnibus Age Verifier - Manitoba Current Armoury: WE C7A1 x2 - WE M14 DMR - WE L85A2 CA C8 - CA SLR105 - TM FAMAS WE Browning Hi-Power - Tanaka Browning Hi-Power WE M1911 - KWA SIG Sauer P226 - KSC SIG Sauer P229

September 18th, 2009, 10:53	#10
Mordarski J.A. formerly Blinky Trader rating Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lindsay ON	Ha ha, necro-posting in my own thread.....nice! So a bit of an update, I've acquired some of my kit and am doing preliminary work on my uniform. With Halloween around the corner, we're now into crunch time and things are moving along nicely. I'll post pics/updates when I have them, in addition to a list of what I'm using. For reference, this endeavor is not for the faint of heart.....so far the loadout is pegged at upwards of $1100, and I've still got to pick up a few things. __________________ Josh Mordarski South Manitoba Rifles Non Sibi Sed Omnibus Age Verifier - Manitoba Current Armoury: WE C7A1 x2 - WE M14 DMR - WE L85A2 CA C8 - CA SLR105 - TM FAMAS WE Browning Hi-Power - Tanaka Browning Hi-Power WE M1911 - KWA SIG Sauer P226 - KSC SIG Sauer P229

September 18th, 2009, 11:42	#11
Leopard2a6m Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Winterpeg	Your nuts, Why dont you spend some of that money on fixing up your M-4 so all the plastic doesnt need to be held on with gun tape. lol

September 18th, 2009, 13:22	#12
Mordarski J.A. formerly Blinky Trader rating Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lindsay ON	That's ELECTRICAL tape right now LOL. And now to ask all the ASC geardo's for some help......anyone know what vests these are? Also seen in T_A_N_K's post too. As it stands I'm not looking at picking up the vest immediately, but I'd prefer to have a basis to find something non-ballistic rated for airsoft/Halloween. __________________ Josh Mordarski South Manitoba Rifles Non Sibi Sed Omnibus Age Verifier - Manitoba Current Armoury: WE C7A1 x2 - WE M14 DMR - WE L85A2 CA C8 - CA SLR105 - TM FAMAS WE Browning Hi-Power - Tanaka Browning Hi-Power WE M1911 - KWA SIG Sauer P226 - KSC SIG Sauer P229

September 30th, 2010, 19:03	#13
Mordarski J.A. formerly Blinky Trader rating Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lindsay ON	Here I go necro'ing my own thread from a year ago......hard to believe time passes that quickly, eh? I have acquired patches and a vest, still working on the actual uniform. I'll post pics up shortly (hopefully by the weekend) and start showing all the progress. __________________ Josh Mordarski South Manitoba Rifles Non Sibi Sed Omnibus Age Verifier - Manitoba Current Armoury: WE C7A1 x2 - WE M14 DMR - WE L85A2 CA C8 - CA SLR105 - TM FAMAS WE Browning Hi-Power - Tanaka Browning Hi-Power WE M1911 - KWA SIG Sauer P226 - KSC SIG Sauer P229

May 18th, 2011, 03:02	#14
Mordarski J.A. formerly Blinky Trader rating Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lindsay ON	Christ almighty, I'm necro-ing my own damned post AGAIN!! I finally got around to uploading the damned pics of my gear. Now, not everything is 100% accurate but I got as close as I possibly could. I did take a bit of liberties on certain items as there was no exactly specific equipment listed anywhere. Without further ado............ NYPD ESU vest (front) - Lower: 4x double STANAG magazine pouch (to be used with AR15 carbine rifle) - Upper: (L) Cell phone case; (R) Double pistol magazine pouch NYPD ESU vest medical pouch (on left side) NYPD ESU vest (back) NYPD ESU vest (back) with plate removed Gun belt - Complete view Gun belt - Right side including Safariland 6004 holster (SIG Sauer P226 with X300 UBL) Gun belt - Right rear (L-R: NYPD issued handcuff case, ASP baton case) Gun belt - Left side (L-R: Pistol magazine pouch, Surefire 6P carrier, Motorola Saber radio) The only additions I have to make with the belt is a key carrier. Once I have the shirt completed I'll post up more photos. __________________ Josh Mordarski South Manitoba Rifles Non Sibi Sed Omnibus Age Verifier - Manitoba Current Armoury: WE C7A1 x2 - WE M14 DMR - WE L85A2 CA C8 - CA SLR105 - TM FAMAS WE Browning Hi-Power - Tanaka Browning Hi-Power WE M1911 - KWA SIG Sauer P226 - KSC SIG Sauer P229

September 15th, 2011, 15:43	#15
tonyshiphoto Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2011	the NYPD ESU vest are custom made in ballistic lvl 3 called "turtle neck" which is destined to be replaced with the new Hornet vest, which is basically a law enforcement version of the U.S.M.C. Modular Tactical Vest (MTV). The OCCB of NYPD has just accuquired these new vest and set to assist ESU in case of a Mumbai style terror attack on the NYC soil. Items are carried differently by the ESU members depends on their role, some carry extra ammos and some carry medicals.

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