acm Masada review

appslapp · February 27th, 2009, 09:34

part 1 and 2 of my review:
http://www.drapers.be/masadareviewpart1.html
http://www.drapers.be/masadareviewpart2.html

Krookedatmosphere · February 27th, 2009, 10:19

not bad i want one now

screwdriver · February 27th, 2009, 19:24

i bought one in the uk before they were withdrawn from sale due to copyright infringement, i think only about 30 were sold in the end so extremly exclusive over here.
build quality is excellent, when magpul eventually release theirs it has alot to live up to but then it should as it will four times dearer and not even a complete gun

appslapp · March 2nd, 2009, 17:58

tested today, and I am really pleased, just need a new hopuprubber and spacer to match my other aegs. i love the ergonomics of this gun..as i am a lefty

dockronixion · March 3rd, 2009, 10:05

very nice i want one why is it that with airsoft a new gun comes around and my brain says need my wallet says no!!!!!

what camera did u use looks like a nikon d90?

Conker · March 3rd, 2009, 10:31

Such a nice gun, and looks surprisingly good with an ACOG

Aww... I've got contacts to buy it, but none to get it inside Canada

Bah, I'm underage anyways so too bad. Let's just hope the PTS won't be too unnafordable.

BTW nice videos AppSlapp, reviews of the Masada are pretty hard to find so it's appreciated that you took the time to share this

appslapp · March 23rd, 2009, 16:12

All 3 parts here:

http://www.drapers.be/masadareviewpart1.html
http://www.drapers.be/masadareviewpart2.html
http://www.drapers.be/masadareviewpart3.html

Multikam · April 7th, 2009, 18:09

Whoa, that's awesome how the AEG version of Masada also features the quick removal of the barrel assembly!

Conker · April 7th, 2009, 19:03

You've had it for some time now, what do you think of its reliability? Are the internals somehow durable?

Amoki · April 8th, 2009, 02:29

appslapp: would you be nice enough to make a reassembly guide? I took the mechbox completely apart, rebuild, and now having trouble putting them back in particularly around the sprocket/selector area. Not sure where I've gone wrong

Commanche: With the Masada that I have (got it from Hong Kong)
1) Air nozzle to cylinder head air-sealing is good. Air nozzle is SR25. Cylinder head is standard M4.
2) Gear is over-greased but okay. Standard Chinese steel gear so if you got your mechbox fixed up right they'll last a while.
3) Piston-head air seal is poor . If you can't find the o-ring(s) for the piston, you'll need to completely swap out the piston and the piston head OR the cylinder because their piston head screw-on design is... unique. =/
4) spring guide is crap. Anything more than 320FPS it'll be a good idea to swap out
5) BAD stock shimming, you'll definitely need to reshim.
6) stock motor is crap.
7) anti-reversal latch and trigger spring pops up easy during reassembly

Didn't chrono the gun stock, but the spring tension is similar to a PDI 130% (370FPS). At about 70% the length.

The tappet plate is a wee bit thicker than usual. Not sure whether I'll classify it as "reinforced" though.

Will need to get my lower receiver reassembled first before I look into the hop-up unit. But I suspect as with most ACM guns the barrel needs a clean and the hop-up sleeve either cleaned or replaced.

The mechbox shell itself is not too bad and build thick, but strips very easily. It's not very "hard" either (scratch easy - not a good sign of mechbox durability especially on a Version 2 gearbox). If you plan on going 400FPS and above you'll probably want to buy a JG Version 2 mechbox from RSOV (Red motor + new Systema mechbox shell copy) and swap over the air-nozzle, IMO it's not worth buying the individual parts and try to make them work on the stock gun unless you're on a budget.

nro_delta · April 8th, 2009, 02:49

I want one !!!

Amoki · April 8th, 2009, 08:41

Never mind I manage to get the mechbox back into the lower receiver. The levers/sprockets/whatever you call it does take a fair bit of wiggling around. :banghead:

Stock barrel is dirty - definitely needs to be cleaned before use.

Hop-up is 2 piece - not too impressed, as 2 piece hop-up unit is much easier to leak air then 1 piece hop-up. That said, they are using a SR25 nozzle so hopefully leaked air is kept to a minimum.I believe someone from filairsoft.com manage to mod his Masada to take a Systema hop-up unit?

Hop-up sleeve is, interesting, similar to the Element hop-up rubber design.

Still trying to figure how to take out the inner barrel.

Overall:
- very nice externally
- internals need to be fixed, particularly shimming.
- diassembly and re-assembly pretty annoying.

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February 27th, 2009, 09:34	#1
appslapp Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sweden	acm Masada review part 1 and 2 of my review: http://www.drapers.be/masadareviewpart1.html http://www.drapers.be/masadareviewpart2.html

February 27th, 2009, 19:24	#3
screwdriver Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: united kingdom	i bought one in the uk before they were withdrawn from sale due to copyright infringement, i think only about 30 were sold in the end so extremly exclusive over here. build quality is excellent, when magpul eventually release theirs it has alot to live up to but then it should as it will four times dearer and not even a complete gun __________________ ca scar/icsm4/galaxy mp7/agm m14/ ca sa58/g&g l85/ca mp5/tm m4/ca g3/g&g ak104/maruzen m11cqb/g&g sr25/ca m4a1/top m249/ a&k masada/tmp90/jg552 seals/tm m16a1/tm uzi/l96/star l1a1/de m56/dboy kac pdw/jg g36c/a&k druganov/tm mc51/m93r aep/glock aep/tm thompson/agm mp40/hexagon ppsh41/dboy k98 wood

March 3rd, 2009, 10:05	#5
dockronixion Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Chilliwack	very nice i want one why is it that with airsoft a new gun comes around and my brain says need my wallet says no!!!!! what camera did u use looks like a nikon d90? __________________

February 27th, 2009, 10:19	#2
Krookedatmosphere Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Guelph, Ontario	not bad i want one now

March 2nd, 2009, 17:58	#4
appslapp Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sweden	tested today, and I am really pleased, just need a new hopuprubber and spacer to match my other aegs. i love the ergonomics of this gun..as i am a lefty

March 3rd, 2009, 10:31	#6
Conker Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada / Ireland / USA	Such a nice gun, and looks surprisingly good with an ACOG Aww... I've got contacts to buy it, but none to get it inside Canada Bah, I'm underage anyways so too bad. Let's just hope the PTS won't be too unnafordable. BTW nice videos AppSlapp, reviews of the Masada are pretty hard to find so it's appreciated that you took the time to share this __________________ WTS: King Arms/Madbull Mk18 Mod1 - VFC Mk17 SCAR-H midcap mags, FDE - VFC Mk17 SCAR-H + PWS rail, FDE WTB/WTT: CSOR gear, BFG, Tyr, Crye, etc

March 23rd, 2009, 16:12	#7
appslapp Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sweden	All 3 parts here: http://www.drapers.be/masadareviewpart1.html http://www.drapers.be/masadareviewpart2.html http://www.drapers.be/masadareviewpart3.html

April 7th, 2009, 18:09	#8
Multikam Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto	Whoa, that's awesome how the AEG version of Masada also features the quick removal of the barrel assembly!

April 7th, 2009, 19:03	#9
Conker Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada / Ireland / USA	You've had it for some time now, what do you think of its reliability? Are the internals somehow durable? __________________ WTS: King Arms/Madbull Mk18 Mod1 - VFC Mk17 SCAR-H midcap mags, FDE - VFC Mk17 SCAR-H + PWS rail, FDE WTB/WTT: CSOR gear, BFG, Tyr, Crye, etc

April 8th, 2009, 02:29	#10
Amoki Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Aotearoa	appslapp: would you be nice enough to make a reassembly guide? I took the mechbox completely apart, rebuild, and now having trouble putting them back in particularly around the sprocket/selector area. Not sure where I've gone wrong Commanche: With the Masada that I have (got it from Hong Kong) 1) Air nozzle to cylinder head air-sealing is good. Air nozzle is SR25. Cylinder head is standard M4. 2) Gear is over-greased but okay. Standard Chinese steel gear so if you got your mechbox fixed up right they'll last a while. 3) Piston-head air seal is poor . If you can't find the o-ring(s) for the piston, you'll need to completely swap out the piston and the piston head OR the cylinder because their piston head screw-on design is... unique. =/ 4) spring guide is crap. Anything more than 320FPS it'll be a good idea to swap out 5) BAD stock shimming, you'll definitely need to reshim. 6) stock motor is crap. 7) anti-reversal latch and trigger spring pops up easy during reassembly Didn't chrono the gun stock, but the spring tension is similar to a PDI 130% (370FPS). At about 70% the length. The tappet plate is a wee bit thicker than usual. Not sure whether I'll classify it as "reinforced" though. Will need to get my lower receiver reassembled first before I look into the hop-up unit. But I suspect as with most ACM guns the barrel needs a clean and the hop-up sleeve either cleaned or replaced. The mechbox shell itself is not too bad and build thick, but strips very easily. It's not very "hard" either (scratch easy - not a good sign of mechbox durability especially on a Version 2 gearbox). If you plan on going 400FPS and above you'll probably want to buy a JG Version 2 mechbox from RSOV (Red motor + new Systema mechbox shell copy) and swap over the air-nozzle, IMO it's not worth buying the individual parts and try to make them work on the stock gun unless you're on a budget. Last edited by Amoki; April 8th, 2009 at 02:38..

April 8th, 2009, 02:49	#11
nro_delta Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	I want one !!!

April 8th, 2009, 08:41	#12
Amoki Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Aotearoa	Never mind I manage to get the mechbox back into the lower receiver. The levers/sprockets/whatever you call it does take a fair bit of wiggling around. :banghead: Stock barrel is dirty - definitely needs to be cleaned before use. Hop-up is 2 piece - not too impressed, as 2 piece hop-up unit is much easier to leak air then 1 piece hop-up. That said, they are using a SR25 nozzle so hopefully leaked air is kept to a minimum.I believe someone from filairsoft.com manage to mod his Masada to take a Systema hop-up unit? Hop-up sleeve is, interesting, similar to the Element hop-up rubber design. Still trying to figure how to take out the inner barrel. Overall: - very nice externally - internals need to be fixed, particularly shimming. - diassembly and re-assembly pretty annoying.

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