Transporting Airsoft Legally

Anvil · August 10th, 2015, 22:26

Hello ASC

Recently, some local players informed me that as of November last year, it is required that one store and transport airsoft guns in a locked gun case, with trigger locks on the guns themselves. They have provided me with this link to support their claims: https://nfa.ca/news/supreme-court-ca...s-are-firearms

Now, before I go buying new cases and trigger locks for my guns, I would just like to check with the community here to ensure that the information I'm being provided is in fact, true.

I'm sorry if this question has been asked elsewhere.

pestobanana · August 10th, 2015, 22:36

The link doesn't support those claims, just read the articles.

You don't need trigger locks and locked cases. You just can't stuff it in a guitar case or backpack.

Danke · August 10th, 2015, 22:37

Lots of links in this thread. Read them all and then decide.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=171023

Anvil · August 10th, 2015, 23:19

Unfortunately I have not yet been age verified and therefor lack the permissions required to view that link. (Or at least I think that's why I'm not able to see it.)

pestobanana · August 11th, 2015, 00:25

Simply put
The article is designed to freak us out. Supreme Court ruling that Airsoft guns are firearms, that's nothing new. They've been considered firearms, which is why we could legally import them as they can't be replica firearms if they are on fact firearms.

The transportation guidelines are just "don't be a moron". Keep Airsoft guns in gun cases, not "concealed" like in a backpack or guitar case. Uncontrolled firearms are exempt from the storage and transportation laws outlined for non restricted and restricted firearms, so we don't need trigger locks etc. We just need common sense.

Enthusiast · August 11th, 2015, 08:46

Quote from the RCMP:

'These air guns are exempt from the specific safe storage, transportation and handling requirements set out in the regulations supporting the Firearms Act. However, the Criminal Code requires that reasonable precautions be taken to use, carry, handle, store, transport and ship them in a safe and secure manner.'

source:http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/f...me_air-eng.htm

Danke · August 11th, 2015, 11:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anvil

Unfortunately I have not yet been age verified and therefor lack the permissions required to view that link. (Or at least I think that's why I'm not able to see it.)

I'll recap it for you.

Once there was a group of firearms enthusiasts who felt people who owned airsoft were a group of sub human mongoloid short bus riding idiots who were doing as much damage to firearms ownership as Wendy Cukier. Any wiff of that and they were on a person with a flame war that was unceasing. It was like being outed as gay in the 40s.

One day a lawyer who was a driving force behind this group decided to take on a case of a welfare/workman's comp cheat/utter shitpump who also happened to be a phony gangster. He liked to use a Pellet Gun (not airsoft) to show how he was going to "pop a cap in yo ass yo". Unsurprisingly they lost and said shitpump was found guilty.

At that point they employed the cunning stunt of using their failure as a membership drive and their shills signed up on this very website to tell us that the only hope of "saving" airsoft in Canada was to pay them some money to defend us. They couldn't hide their condescension though so while explaining what a bunch children we were and didn't understand the real world they all had epic meltdowns and went away.

Short form, nothing has changed. Follow common sense rules. Transport it cased and otherwise out of sight. Don't brandish it in your front yard, and so on.

Styrak · August 11th, 2015, 13:56

Non-restricted firearms don't even need trigger locks or cases to be transported. Although it's a good idea to keep it in a case (doesn't have to be a locked case)

Datawraith · August 11th, 2015, 14:08

Pesto, I thought that it was still alright if we stuff it into a backpack or a case for musical instruments. It makes more sense to carry it discreetly especially on public transit rather than bringing aboard a visible gun case. It should be okay as long as it is transported in a safe and non-visible manner right? Let me know if I'm wrong on this.

Danke · August 11th, 2015, 14:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Datawraith

Pesto, I thought that it was still alright if we stuff it into a backpack or a case for musical instruments. It makes more sense to carry it discreetly especially on public transit rather than bringing aboard a visible gun case. It should be okay as long as it is transported in a safe and non-visible manner right? Let me know if I'm wrong on this.

You better check the bus regs thoroughly. Firearms are often not permitted.

TurlteRaph · August 11th, 2015, 15:20

regardless of the law, hard cases are always a good idea for transporting and storing your airsoft guns.

RainyEyes · August 11th, 2015, 15:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Datawraith

Pesto, I thought that it was still alright if we stuff it into a backpack or a case for musical instruments. It makes more sense to carry it discreetly especially on public transit rather than bringing aboard a visible gun case. It should be okay as long as it is transported in a safe and non-visible manner right? Let me know if I'm wrong on this.

AFAIK the TTC has a by-law prohibiting the transfer of airsoft guns on all TTC vehicles... but whether or not this is enforced and if the bus driver can tell apart a gun case from a guitar case is another story.

Usually, there's very little variation between transit companies so err on the safe side and consider it prohibited.

ThunderCactus · August 11th, 2015, 17:39

Didnt toronto ban firearms on public transport because the guy who shot up the university took the bus there with his rifle?
Airsoft guns are uncontrolled firearms, but still firearms.
Follow common sense, understand that everyone else is going to assume its a real gun. Transport it out of sight, theres an argument to using a guitar case though, arouses less suspicion and doesnt get people all jittery.

Datawraith · August 11th, 2015, 21:37

Yeah I know of that bylaw as well, but I either drive or hitch a ride when I'm in the GTA.

When I'm back in KW... gotta find an alternative method for getting 10+ people out to games. Maybe we can call GRT and charter a bus explaining that we're going to a paintball field and have them waive that policy... Otherwise it's taxis and trying to find carpools.

ThunderCactus · August 11th, 2015, 23:06

So does like nobody in toronto own a car? or what's the deal?

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August 10th, 2015, 22:26	#1
Anvil Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Salt Spring Island, BC, Canada	Transporting Airsoft Legally Hello ASC Recently, some local players informed me that as of November last year, it is required that one store and transport airsoft guns in a locked gun case, with trigger locks on the guns themselves. They have provided me with this link to support their claims: https://nfa.ca/news/supreme-court-ca...s-are-firearms Now, before I go buying new cases and trigger locks for my guns, I would just like to check with the community here to ensure that the information I'm being provided is in fact, true. I'm sorry if this question has been asked elsewhere.

August 10th, 2015, 22:37	#3
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	Lots of links in this thread. Read them all and then decide. http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=171023 __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

August 10th, 2015, 23:19	#4
Anvil Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Salt Spring Island, BC, Canada	Unfortunately I have not yet been age verified and therefor lack the permissions required to view that link. (Or at least I think that's why I'm not able to see it.) Last edited by Anvil; August 10th, 2015 at 23:21..

August 10th, 2015, 22:36	#2
pestobanana Squid Porn Superstar, I love the tentacles! Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Richmond Hill and Waterloo, Ontario	The link doesn't support those claims, just read the articles. You don't need trigger locks and locked cases. You just can't stuff it in a guitar case or backpack.

August 11th, 2015, 00:25	#5
pestobanana Squid Porn Superstar, I love the tentacles! Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Richmond Hill and Waterloo, Ontario	Simply put The article is designed to freak us out. Supreme Court ruling that Airsoft guns are firearms, that's nothing new. They've been considered firearms, which is why we could legally import them as they can't be replica firearms if they are on fact firearms. The transportation guidelines are just "don't be a moron". Keep Airsoft guns in gun cases, not "concealed" like in a backpack or guitar case. Uncontrolled firearms are exempt from the storage and transportation laws outlined for non restricted and restricted firearms, so we don't need trigger locks etc. We just need common sense.

August 11th, 2015, 08:46	#6
Enthusiast Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Montreal	Quote from the RCMP: 'These air guns are exempt from the specific safe storage, transportation and handling requirements set out in the regulations supporting the Firearms Act. However, the Criminal Code requires that reasonable precautions be taken to use, carry, handle, store, transport and ship them in a safe and secure manner.' source:http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/f...me_air-eng.htm

August 11th, 2015, 13:56	#8
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Non-restricted firearms don't even need trigger locks or cases to be transported. Although it's a good idea to keep it in a case (doesn't have to be a locked case) __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

August 11th, 2015, 14:08	#9
Datawraith Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Markham	Pesto, I thought that it was still alright if we stuff it into a backpack or a case for musical instruments. It makes more sense to carry it discreetly especially on public transit rather than bringing aboard a visible gun case. It should be okay as long as it is transported in a safe and non-visible manner right? Let me know if I'm wrong on this.

August 11th, 2015, 15:20	#11
TurlteRaph Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Port Moody, BC	regardless of the law, hard cases are always a good idea for transporting and storing your airsoft guns.

August 11th, 2015, 17:39	#13
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	Didnt toronto ban firearms on public transport because the guy who shot up the university took the bus there with his rifle? Airsoft guns are uncontrolled firearms, but still firearms. Follow common sense, understand that everyone else is going to assume its a real gun. Transport it out of sight, theres an argument to using a guitar case though, arouses less suspicion and doesnt get people all jittery.

August 11th, 2015, 21:37	#14
Datawraith Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Markham	Yeah I know of that bylaw as well, but I either drive or hitch a ride when I'm in the GTA. When I'm back in KW... gotta find an alternative method for getting 10+ people out to games. Maybe we can call GRT and charter a bus explaining that we're going to a paintball field and have them waive that policy... Otherwise it's taxis and trying to find carpools.

August 11th, 2015, 23:06	#15
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	So does like nobody in toronto own a car? or what's the deal?

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