getting yelled at for not feeling bb hit?

[Slodin]

I can't tell often a bb hit or not, because of the engagement distance and their rifles being not powerful enough to deliver that little pinch. So most of the time I rely on the sound that the BB makes by hitting on my clothe. My jacket is really good at protecting my torso because of the material it's made of. It literally deflects bbs without any pinch even at close range. (400+ would really feel it tho)

It's frustrating because I'm in a really good position to cover teammates, but we started yelling back and forth about being hit or not. Because i'm paying so much attention on that, I get distracted and hit by another person that I actually felt it or heard it :banghead:

tbh, most of the time when i shoot my bbs, I can't really tell if I hit or not. I barely can see the flight path but that really depends on the lighting.

Last incident was I heard a bing on my rifle, but I didn't hear anything else or feel anything else, so i just yelled back that you hit my rifle. While I was yelling it out to him, I got flanked..Cause I have to stay in cover to think did i get hit? did he only got my rifle? then someone comes from the side and pop me.

How do you guys deal with this? I'm consider this a noob question since I didn't play that much yet, and this already happened a few times.

[BioRage]

You w0t m8. You nub. gtfo.

People aren't supposed to be calling your hits period. Ignore them. There are a lot of short-tempered airsoft players, and they think they "hit you" in some cases, they don't. Probably because they don't break through the foliage.

It's annoying and irritating when you have someone calling your hits.

When you feel it, that's when you call your hit. If are unsure you can also call "HIT" if you must.

Usually if I shoot people and they don't call their hits, I keep shooting them, so should everyone else.

[waylander]

That's pretty much what I was told when I started a few months ago. If someone isn't calling their hits, keep shooting until they do.

No one should shoot just a few rounds at you, decide that they hit you, stop firing and yell at you....

[Desmodus]

If you ever encounter a situation where you think you probably got hit, its better to just call yourself out.

Never call out someone else's hit, if you can see they blatantly aren't outing themselves then just lace them some more until they do, or get game control involved.

[Ranger11]

You know, sometimes even continuing to hit a guy doesn't work, I pumped an entire mag into a guy, dumped that one and kept going, still didn't call it.

The thing I generally follow if they aren't calling it after 5 or 6, and you KNOW you hit them, is to sling your rifle, grab your side arm, walk up to them and say "hey man I hit you a few times already" and if they refuse to not call it then shoot them and then they can call it. By no means should you be calling hit through this.

Before you jump down my throat for "you're hit you can't shoot" or "that's a sketchy move" at no point did I say to call hit or act as though you were.

[Spike]

[beta678]

Happens all the time, all the gear and kit people run can pretty much block out a bb hit so usually the best thing to do is just call a hit when you think you've been hit but you're not 100% sure. It's usually faster to go back to spawn than argue w/ some guy for 5 mins.

Of course there are exceptions, a lot of times people will think they hit you when in reality they don't have the range, miss, or can't shoot through foliage (often times this happens w/ newer players who don't know the actual range and performance of their guns). In that case I usually keep playing until I actually get hit. On the reverse side, if you're not sure you're hitting someone, move up and get a better shot. If you can't see your shots, there's a good chance you're missing. If you're hitting him he'll call it eventually (unless they're cheating, in that case find a ref and let him know).

Gun hits are gun hits, call it and depending on rules keep playing or switch to secondary. If you got flanked in the process then kudos to them for getting into position to take you out. It's the nature of the game.

If someone is arguing/yelling at you for not calling what they think was a hit and he gets aggressive about it, go find a ref and inform them. It happens from time to time when some guy takes the game too seriously.

Regarding ranger11's tip about shooting the guy w/ a secondary... while it might work for him, I wouldn't recommend it over finding a ref to remove the guy from play. It's a bit confrontational and likely to start a fight.

[Swattiger]

Ignore those who call your hits. Refer to the game host if they keep doing it.

Do the same if someone obviously do not call their hits.

Leave it to the game host is the best way. No need to confront anybody at all.

[daishi]

When people are obviously cheating, thats when you switch to your c02 .28's "special mag of pain".

And by obvious you can see them flinching or you are hitting them in fleshy spots ect.

Otherwise, never approach another player to have a fight, just feel better knowing you are a better person then that no honor scum and find a new target, or find a way to melee him/her :3

[ShelledPants]

It is the on the onus of the shooter to ensure you feel the hit, if they hit you once, they should be able to hit you again, in rapid succession, and make you call hit.

I'm not suggesting you shrug a hit, but it's up to the shooter to engage from a range that you feel the hit. Plinking from 300 feet away and expecting me to hear a bb hit while walking through brush is not my fault, and the shooter should know this.

It is a limitation of the sport, you must close the distance so that your weapon can accurately engage and make sufficient contact with the opposing player to make the hit "count" and they feel it.

[DrunkenTeddy]

As the victim (the one being shot), just be as conscious as you can to whether you've been shot. If you think you were hit, call it.

As the shooter, if a guy doesn't call a hit shoot again, if he still doesn't call it aim for a soft spot or full auto. If he still doesn't call it that's when I take myself out, walk over to verify who it is not calling hits and go talk to a game host/admin. Confronting someone in the heat of the moment generally gets you no where, but if you're going to talk to a host about an incident, you better be able to give a better description than "he was wearing multicam".

Most of the time just give people the benefit of the doubt, if they don't call hit maybe you didn't hit them or maybe they didn't feel it. At Iceback in August I was walking just outside of range for a group that were trying to shoot me, I watched as the BBs hit the ground 20 feet in front of me, yet they were all yelling that I was hit. It is easy to lose sight of a BB after 100 feet, and a lot of players tend to assume if you aim the gun at a guy and pull the trigger it will hit.

[Ricochet]

A few points to consider.

- Never call another player out, unless they are on your team. If one of yours is beside you and you see it, politely keep them honest.

- Everyone overestimates the power, range, and accuracy of their guns. It's always the guys with crappy guns who think they hit you.

- BB hits to gear make distinct sounds, and as a player it is your responsibility to learn that sound to keep the game honest. It doesn't sound like a tree, it doesn't sound like a building, it sounds like gear, and yes you can hear it at quite a distance. There will always be places, like mag pouches and panels that you'll never feel hits through. Wearing a billowy michelan man suit is probably a bad idea.

- If someone refuses to call their hits, shoot until they do. Always be absolutely certain though, airsoft guns can be fickle, especially at range. Never get emotional, no one wants to play with cheaters. Either shoot for a more tender are, the face works well, and if you see blatant cheating, report it politely to an admin.

- If you are consistently getting called out by different people, figure out the issue. You don't want to be known as the guy who cheats.

[pestobanana]

There are certain indoor fields where cheating is so common, I'm sometimes glad my gun is capable of 50+RPS and I flip it from semi to auto and give the asshole a two second mag dump.

[ThunderCactus]

It can happen to the best of us, it's pretty common while running as well. I've seen the most honest players not call a short range hit to their arms while running, well they honestly didn't feel it and didn't hear it.

That being said, you get better at this as you play, you'll start to know what sounds are hits. The first game I played with a camelbak I took a burst to it and had to think about it for a few seconds before I realized what actually got hit lol

But if you THINK you got hit, or even if it was a very good shot, just call it. Back when I had my bolt action rifle, I've had guys call hit from me hitting twigs just a foot infront of them. They weren't hit, it was technically a deflection, but by all means it would have been a kill shot.

As far as seeing where your BBs are going, I've been playing for 8 years and I still have trouble knowing if I hit people at even 100ft lol
My rule is, pretend you were shooting one of your good buddies. If you know beyond any doubt that you hit him and he didn't call it, are you prepared to potentially ruin your friend's airsoft career?

And as for people calling other people's hits. These guys are complete fucktards.
In 8 years, not ONE damn time have I EVER seen or even heard about a person calling their hit after someone has yelled "call your fucking hit!". Not once.
It doesn't help, it doesn't make anything better, and those kind of people are actually WRONG most of the time.
I've had the misfortune to play with a few of those guys over the years, they're either too blind to see their BBs are falling short, or they just don't trust anyone.
I've had a back and forth firefight in CQB with one of these guys, he swore he hit me 3 separate times, but I was dodging them just in the last 30ft. You could actually hear them hitting the metal roofing panels behind me -_-

Like everyone else here is saying:
-If someone on your team gets hit, and you know it, if they don't call it then ask them politely. You gotta help keep your team honest. Sometimes we just don't know we got hit.

-Admins are your friend, but they can only catch a guy cheating if you can describe him. Make mental notes, face mask, type of gun, camo, color of vest, build size.

-A lot of people will tell you to aim for face if someone is blatantly not calling hit. If they have a face mask, that's fine, but if they don't I think that's irresponsible of us as community leaders. I recommend you aim for a soft spot, like the thighs. But please don't be one of those people who fires half a mag into a guy's face for cheating, because:

-Once you set out to actively do someone harm with an airsoft gun, regardless of the reason ("That guy's cheating I'm gonna light his face up!" Or, "I hate that guy I'm gonna light his face up!"), if you break teeth, imbed BBs into skin, or get BBs past their glasses, that is now assault and potentially assault causing bodily harm. By contrast, dumping a mag into a guys thighs for cheating leaves "trifling", or "transient" damage (let's face it, paintball bruises are much worse), and that's acceptable, or at the very least you can dismiss it as a sporting incident.

We don't play to hurt, we play to have fun. If someone's preventing us from having fun, we ask them to leave, we don't commit assault.

[lurkingknight]

sometimes you just don't feel it... or so much shit is bouncing around that they're ricochets coming back at weird angles either from you, a teammate or the opposition.


Like they said, you are not out till you are hit, if you don't feel it, you don't feel it... it can happen. If I were shooting and you didn't call... I start aiming for more sensitive spots where you CAN feel it. (under the arms, inside of arms, backs of arms, insides of legs... ass.. groin. lol)

But yeah, nobody is a bigger douche on the field than the one who yells at a guy for not calling hits. If you honestly think someone is cheating, call game control.