New BB's from BB Bastard for the 2010 season

[Scarecrow]

Originally Posted by Spawn28

The EcoBB's are awsome i had the privillage testing out a bag and i must say awsome job Jay and one thing i found out is the ECO's arent flammable and are twice as hard to crush then the regular bbs i just finished the bag and am working on a review it will be posted soon. Awsome products Jay keep em commin..

Thanks Spawn.

The airsoft community has been quietly testing out my ECO products since last summer. Spawn has been a tester - several others have been recently sent comp bags out, in various cities and provinces. I've gone through 4 different test batches and the batch Spawn has been shooting have been the final selected formula - of which I am very happy to say meets the Bastard quality versus cost ratio. My first 10kg test batch is sitting in my backyard compost and has turned into sludge over the winter. The other two batches never made it out my door. The .20g and .25 formula I chose was bagged in September and distributed - about 200 comp bags in total went out - so far everyone seems to be happy with them. So I am hoping the community will have enough people out there with experience with them that I don't have to convince a lot of people to use them.

I still say Styrene BBs are reasonably non-toxic but they do have a 20 year degredation cycle (minimum). But for those who clearly want BBs gone, the ECOBBs are a sure bet without compromising performance or risking your feedpath to chalk or goo deposits. The bag design also ensure product longevity after the bag has been opened and reopened.

[Scarecrow]

Originally Posted by Spawn28

Hey Jay
Any word on how much a bag of BB Glasstards uhhh I mean glass bastards will be?

Pending. It will be reasonable and competitive though...

[Conker]

It was not written anywhere, so I'll ask: what's the respective cost of these new products?

[Drakker]

One question about the bio BBs, do they swell up when it's very humid? Say, after a rainy night in the morning fog. I was at a game last autumn, in those exact conditions, on a field that required bio BBs, and most brands of eco BBs swelled up so much that they would jam and cause all kind of feeding problems in almost every guns.

[Scarecrow]

Originally Posted by Conker

It was not written anywhere, so I'll ask: what's the respective cost of these new products?

To be revealed at TAC10!

[Scarecrow]

Originally Posted by Drakker

One question about the bio BBs, do they swell up when it's very humid? Say, after a rainy night in the morning fog. I was at a game last autumn, in those exact conditions, on a field that required bio BBs, and most brands of eco BBs swelled up so much that they would jam and cause all kind of feeding problems in almost every guns.

As long as the BB is not scored when loaded into the mag, no, they should not - the polish process has one benefit - is has a water resistent shell. But I have disclaimers on the bags that state they should not be used in rain conditions and I don't recommend it.

Unfortunately this is one aspect of bio formulations in general you cannot escape - H20 in combination with C02 activates the decomposition process. But I can say the exposure to H20 has to be longer than past formulations. You probably could get away with it in a one day game. Humid conditions should not be a problem, but if you have water sitting right on the BB, it will be a problem.

So, for example, the Wolfpack May 24 games, I would use the Styrene formulation because its almost guaranteed to rain...

[Scarecrow]

Originally Posted by Conker

It was not written anywhere, so I'll ask: what's the respective cost of these new products?

Oh, but look at ASCMart - .20gr and .25gr ECOBBs are $12.50 a bag.

Unfortunately these BBs are a little more than regular BBs. As usual I try and make it so you can buy bags on the field with bills - so if you don't want to make change, you need to buy 2 bags for $25.

The .28gr ECOs and Clears TBA though.

[CDN_Stalker]

Nice Jay.

I still want 0.34g sniper rounds!!!!!! Lol

[Donster]

when will ASC mart be stocked up on ALL of your product?

[Scarecrow]

Originally Posted by Donster

when will ASC mart be stocked up on ALL of your product?

The additional product will arrive in the next 60 days.

[Spawn28]

Just another point i had 6 Bio BB's in a cup of water after 6 hrs they showed no signs of swelling or breaking down i even cut one in half and still nothing the breakdown doesnt seem to occure till around the 12-15hr mark fully submerged and even then i was still able to shoot them with ease. They didnt foul, jam or leave anykind of residue in the barrel.(KEWL) now that being said i dont suggest submerging these and shooting them this was just for testing purposes.

[Drakker]

Great to hear! I'll be first in line to buy them when they are available.

[Huron]

Hmm.. Running an Eco or regular white and glass clear mix of .28s sounds nice... I've never been so excited just for BB's before

[theguy]

Older brands of Biodegradable BBs had a tendency to shatter upon impact, therefore a couple of fields in this area don't let people use them.

Do these new Bastards shatter upon impact too? or do they remain more solid?

Thanks, and I can't wait to get my hands on some!

[Scarecrow]

Originally Posted by theguy

Older brands of Biodegradable BBs had a tendency to shatter upon impact, therefore a couple of fields in this area don't let people use them.

They're more resilient than past formulations but I still don't recommend playing with mesh goggles and there is a warning on the packaging about that. Fire PBR against a concrete wall I was able to split about every 3rd or 4th shot with a gun that cronied around 380fps. Broken pieces were not particularly jagged or sharp, and they didn't powder, which I thought was good. But styrene they are not.