Which 416

jomor · June 23rd, 2013, 00:36

Okay I read the FCC 416 review and it scared me! $3000. and it still needed to be worked on?? Can you use magpul aeg emags in it?? I love TM products and their new 416 looks awesome! But whats the deal with the Battery? Can you use regular crane stock batteries or just their newly designed one? I have lusted for the VFC 416 and now that it has the proper H&K stock on it I want it even more! However, I see I can pick up a Hurricane kit and build my own?
I missed out on a VFC 416 that was tricked out with all LONEX internals( palm to the forehead!) So now which way should I go????????????????

lurkingknight · June 23rd, 2013, 00:45

vfc.

Danke · June 23rd, 2013, 00:47

You can convert the TM to run regular batteries if you want.

I have a VFC with every cool part in the book when it was made and I'm thinking of changing to the TM. The battery and wiring is just such a drag on mine.

theshaneler · June 23rd, 2013, 00:50

the fcc is a PTW, so you can only use PTW mags. although you can get PTW mags with Pmag shells on them, but they will run you $30-$50 each.

I haven't researched any AEGs in the last 3 years, but TM is always a safe bet internally, and VFC is a safe bet externally. WE also makes a GBBR version that is sexy.

Curo · June 23rd, 2013, 01:19

Pmags shouldn't even fit in a 416 silly. That's what Emags are for.

-=ArchAngel=- · June 23rd, 2013, 01:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curo

Pmags shouldn't even fit in a 416 silly. That's what Emags are for.

not sure about the ptw pmags, but i know that real gen3?? pmags do fit hk416s.

Curo · June 23rd, 2013, 01:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by -=ArchAngel=-

not sure about the ptw pmags, but i know that real gen3?? pmags do fit hk416s.

The new onrs without the upper 2 nubs? Yea but I havent seen an Airsoft version of those yet? Or maybe retailers havent changed pictures and descriptions.

Immelmann · June 23rd, 2013, 02:12

I swear I see a new one of these threads every day.

McFearsom · June 23rd, 2013, 11:16

Vfc ftw, swap hop up and good to go. But the lonex/ modify parts create a beast!

jomor · June 23rd, 2013, 15:34

I'm stilll really upset that missed out on the VFC 416 Lonex built one that was on the AEG for sale here on the ASC. It went for a low $600. UGGG.
Okay so I will forget the PTW version. I don't mind the money but mags and extras would be an issue for me. I have aload of e-mags waiting to mate with a 416!
Has anyone seen the battery connection inside the TM 416? I'm curious to know how easy/hard it would be to convert it to deans.
Thanks for the all the input guys. I know that there have been quite a few posts about the 416 but I think mine is still pertanent and not redundant.

KenTsui · June 23rd, 2013, 19:16

I own an Umarex (VFC) HK416. Like everyone says, externally awesome. Very solid. The buffer tube looks like it'll fit any normal buffer tube battery, but I haven't tried it. I'm actually using a 7.4V 2000 mAH nun-chuck battery in the two side compartments.

And the Gen 3 Pmags don't fit without modification. I sanded off the top bump of the magazine and it works fine now.

Can't really comment on the internals since I mod'ed it even before I shot it. Everything seems pretty standard.

jomor · June 23rd, 2013, 21:54

I knew from the begining that the pmags won't fit. My post says emags. I was just wondering if regular aeg mags work in the PTW but I know now they don't. I won't go down the PTW route. I could several guns for the price of just on FCC 416. I mean SEVERAL, so no thats out for sure.
So now it's either the VFC or the TM. I like the engraving on the TM better. The new VFC seems to have the encylodia Brittanica written on one side of it!
But is it worth a $1000. for the TM knowing that I will do some work on the battery connection?

lurkingknight · June 24th, 2013, 08:31

imo... not worth it for the tm if you're talking about the recoil shock. Not many people work on them and they don't use standard aeg parts. a vfc can be made to shoot even more beautifully than what what it comes out of the box, and you'll still be ahead of the tm.

jomor · June 25th, 2013, 20:00

Thank you Lurkingknight. That has swayed back to the VFC. I'm not overly convinced into buying EBB's. Seems too much like a gimick, plus the battery bothers me to. Thanks for you input and guess thats it VFC it is!!

My thanks to everyone for your input!

TheOneCarlisle · July 25th, 2013, 23:59

Know one mentions the JG 416,is it a bad model?

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June 23rd, 2013, 00:36	#1
jomor Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ottawa	Which 416 Okay I read the FCC 416 review and it scared me! $3000. and it still needed to be worked on?? Can you use magpul aeg emags in it?? I love TM products and their new 416 looks awesome! But whats the deal with the Battery? Can you use regular crane stock batteries or just their newly designed one? I have lusted for the VFC 416 and now that it has the proper H&K stock on it I want it even more! However, I see I can pick up a Hurricane kit and build my own? I missed out on a VFC 416 that was tricked out with all LONEX internals( palm to the forehead!) So now which way should I go????????????????

June 23rd, 2013, 00:45	#2
lurkingknight "bb bukakke" KING! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa	vfc. __________________ I futz with V2s, V3s and V6s. I could be wrong... but probably, most likely not, as far as I know.

June 23rd, 2013, 00:47	#3
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	You can convert the TM to run regular batteries if you want. I have a VFC with every cool part in the book when it was made and I'm thinking of changing to the TM. The battery and wiring is just such a drag on mine. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

June 23rd, 2013, 11:16	#9
McFearsom Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: MB	Vfc ftw, swap hop up and good to go. But the lonex/ modify parts create a beast! __________________ "Most information on the internet is nothing but profound ignorance, to which no insight may be required by the commoner"

June 23rd, 2013, 15:34	#10
jomor Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ottawa	Lonex I'm stilll really upset that missed out on the VFC 416 Lonex built one that was on the AEG for sale here on the ASC. It went for a low $600. UGGG. Okay so I will forget the PTW version. I don't mind the money but mags and extras would be an issue for me. I have aload of e-mags waiting to mate with a 416! Has anyone seen the battery connection inside the TM 416? I'm curious to know how easy/hard it would be to convert it to deans. Thanks for the all the input guys. I know that there have been quite a few posts about the 416 but I think mine is still pertanent and not redundant.

June 23rd, 2013, 19:16	#11
KenTsui Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2011	I own an Umarex (VFC) HK416. Like everyone says, externally awesome. Very solid. The buffer tube looks like it'll fit any normal buffer tube battery, but I haven't tried it. I'm actually using a 7.4V 2000 mAH nun-chuck battery in the two side compartments. And the Gen 3 Pmags don't fit without modification. I sanded off the top bump of the magazine and it works fine now. Can't really comment on the internals since I mod'ed it even before I shot it. Everything seems pretty standard.

June 23rd, 2013, 21:54	#12
jomor Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ottawa	MAGS I knew from the begining that the pmags won't fit. My post says emags. I was just wondering if regular aeg mags work in the PTW but I know now they don't. I won't go down the PTW route. I could several guns for the price of just on FCC 416. I mean SEVERAL, so no thats out for sure. So now it's either the VFC or the TM. I like the engraving on the TM better. The new VFC seems to have the encylodia Brittanica written on one side of it! But is it worth a $1000. for the TM knowing that I will do some work on the battery connection?

June 24th, 2013, 08:31	#13
lurkingknight "bb bukakke" KING! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa	imo... not worth it for the tm if you're talking about the recoil shock. Not many people work on them and they don't use standard aeg parts. a vfc can be made to shoot even more beautifully than what what it comes out of the box, and you'll still be ahead of the tm. __________________ I futz with V2s, V3s and V6s. I could be wrong... but probably, most likely not, as far as I know.

June 25th, 2013, 20:00	#14
jomor Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ottawa	Thanks Thank you Lurkingknight. That has swayed back to the VFC. I'm not overly convinced into buying EBB's. Seems too much like a gimick, plus the battery bothers me to. Thanks for you input and guess thats it VFC it is!! My thanks to everyone for your input!

July 25th, 2013, 23:59	#15
TheOneCarlisle Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Mississauga	Know one mentions the JG 416,is it a bad model?

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