HighCap mags for High Rate of Fire

[GreyFox132]

hi my friend has an upgraded classic army ak74 with a 9.6v3600mah battery. Im just wondering if there are any highcap magazines that can keep up with the rate of fire it has. The currect highcap can handle about 5 rounds then it starts to miss feed

[Skladfin]

mostly any hicap will

ive never had a feeding problem with 9.6v large batts along with hicaps. even at 20 rounds per second

if BBs starts misfeeding though, install a sector clip on the sector gear

[LUTNIT]

STAR mags, TM lowcaps, or TM hicaps.

I had an AK shooting above 40 RPS (50 RPS is the same as an M134 minigun, average AEG is around 13-17 RPS) and it had no feeding issues with a JG hicap I had. My current M4 shoots 25 RPS and my teammates M4 shoots 32 RPS and neither of us have problems with TM lowcaps or TM, CA, or ICS hicaps. Because I have a sector gear clip I can also run midcaps and it doesn't misfeed till there are less than 30rnds left in the mag, so the first 3/4 of the mag is fine.

*Edit*
also note that the Madbull chrony is horrible for determining RPS, it registered a G36 I saw at 40 RPS when it was only shooting around 18, registered my M4 at 0.9 RPS and then at 124 RPS. If you use the Madbull chrony around 10 times there should be a trend, but the best method is still with a microphone and software that will show you the sound pattern.

[GreyFox132]

alright. Doesn't the selector clip mess up the tappet plate sometimes? or what? any info would be greatly appreciated

[GreyFox132]

also isnt the clip for double feeding problems? my problem is that it doesnt feed if the trigger is held for longer then a 5 round burst. IT starts to skip feeds

[Skladfin]

it is used for skipping BBs.

it doesnt fuck up the cycle, where did you hear that?

i know styrak had a problem using it with modify nozzle but it has never caused a problem with me.

[Styrak]

It was actually a Deepfire nozzle, but yes.
And the sector clip delays the nozzle so that BB's will feed reliably. I needed to install one in my M4 that had a 4000mAh 9.6v large battery, cause that battery is fucking ridiculous.

[LUTNIT]

Originally Posted by Styrak

It was actually a Deepfire nozzle, but yes.
And the sector clip delays the nozzle so that BB's will feed reliably. I needed to install one in my M4 that had a 4000mAh 9.6v large battery, cause that battery is fucking ridiculous.

Thats weird, I've used 9.6V 4200mAh packs on stock TM guns to give probably around 20RPS and never had feeding issues. Are you using midcaps? Or do you also have a highspeed motor and/or highspeed gears in there?

And just to be totally random, the new Elite 5000mAh cells actually have a lower amperage supply than the intellect 4200's. The ROF with a 9.6V 4200 intellect is higher than that of a 9.6V 5000. Amperage supply has nothing to do with mAh rating, its reliant on internal resistance. Larger cells have lower internal resistance and lowering the internal resistance often increases the capacity (mAh) but not always.

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by LUTNIT

Thats weird, I've used 9.6V 4200mAh packs on stock TM guns to give probably around 20RPS and never had feeding issues. Are you using midcaps? Or do you also have a highspeed motor and/or highspeed gears in there?

And just to be totally random, the new Elite 5000mAh cells actually have a lower amperage supply than the intellect 4200's. The ROF with a 9.6V 4200 intellect is higher than that of a 9.6V 5000. Amperage supply has nothing to do with mAh rating, its reliant on internal resistance. Larger cells have lower internal resistance and lowering the internal resistance often increases the capacity (mAh) but not always.

I was using KA metal 68 round mags. I think it was regular ratio gears. It was a black JG mechbox. Put in a sector clip and it solved the problem. The battery was an Elite.

[SDS_ShooterMcGavin]

He could always buy a drum mag?

[GreyFox132]

drum mag would be kool but do they feed faster or what?

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by SDS_ShooterMcGavin

He could always buy a drum mag?

Yeah, how does a drum mag solve feeding problems after 5 BB's?

[Conscript]

Originally Posted by GreyFox132

drum mag would be kool but do they feed faster or what?

It depends. From my experience they often get jammed, their motors die out, and when running around with them, emit the same BB rattling sound you hear with Hi-Caps. There are different types of drum mags, electric and manual. Electric requires you to start the motor in the drum mag to feed the BB's. Manual runs on the same principle as Hi-Cap mags.

[LUTNIT]

Could make a custom drum mag out of a hicap and an R/C servo motor, thats how my M60 boxmag is done. Or just buy a quality hicap like TM or something.

Question just in case, are you winding the magazine until it makes the clicking sound or only winding the magazine until the BB's appear at the top? It might be a dumb question but its really important with hicaps.

[The Saint]

Originally Posted by Styrak

Yeah, how does a drum mag solve feeding problems after 5 BB's?

Electrically winded mags provide a faster and more consistent feed. If you watch some of the AEG ROF contests, most people are using motorized hicaps/drums. But those people have ridiculous ROF, a sector chip would almost certainly suffice here.