Weapon Mounted Night Vision Optic

[5.56]

Hello, anyone here has any input on the YUKON and ATN weapon mounted nv optics?
I've seen a lot of videos on Youtube, but I'd like to hear feedbacks from people on this forum who actually committed and bought any of these and what they have to say such as regrets, what works on their model and what doesn't. I am not interested in GEN 3 models, as GEN 1 are the only ones most of us can realistically afford.
Also, some of these are mounted on the rear of a rifle, which probably affects the balance of the weapon. The YUKON models, for example, are about six to seven inches long. Is it cumbersome to use when walking while sighting your weapon?
Any input would be awesome, as I am tinkering about getting one of these.

[Cobrajr122]

Yukon makes some head mounted systems. The biggest problem with Gen 1 is that there still needs to be a fair amount of ambient light or you need to be using an IR flashlight.

I used a friends yukon Gen 1 unit on an M4 a couple years ago for a few mins but it was not very usefull while walking since you pretty must loose depth preception and have a big rifle pointed in front of you.

[5.56]

If I understand you properly, for these GEN 1 YUKON models, to see farther, you'll need IR flashlights to extend the range?

[FOX_111]

That's true with all Gen 1 and Gen 1+.

[ThunderCactus]

Get yukon, I've seen MANY gen1 units, and yukon is by far the best on the market.
Absolutely crisp and clear picture, more crisp and clear than most gen2 models actually, just not as effective in dark conditions. And it's got an electric gate, so it will protect your tube if anyone shines a light at you.
ATN is crap, bottom of the barrel tubes. I was very disappointed in all the ATN models I've looked through.

Light sources change your range of focus, the IR light makes everything brighter up to "200 yards", which is actually more like 120 yards in practice.
And having light sources very close to the aperture actually reduces your depth of view. So for example, if you turn the built in IR light on while the optic is mounted to your weapon, it glares off your barrel or RIS, and you can only see about 20 feet infront of you.
However, if your driving as a passenger on the highway at night, and you put a pillow in the dash to block the glare of the road, the highbeams on the car allow you to see up to 400 feet away.
With good ambient light, say the moon is out, you can see 200 feet with excellent sharpness without any additional light sources. It's absolutely without a doubt better than not having NVD.

The yukon is a fantastic gen1 unit, you just have to know the tricks of using night vision.

And if you want some size comparisons for the yukon rifle optic;

[5.56]

Awesome info, ThunderCactus. Thank you for the pictures. I do see you do not have an optic in the front of the nv. I guess this particular model has a reticle?

[seabass]

Awsome info man. Thanks

[ThunderCactus]

Like I said, any kind of light source close to the aperture reduces field of view, so having an aimpoint would mess with your depth of view.
This model doesn't have a reticle, although yukon has scopes that do. I prefer to use an IR laser

[COL.TIKER]

Reviving thread to ask related question.

Any one tried the digital night vision stuff? How are they? This one in particular:
http://www.sportsmansguide.ca/net/cb....aspx?a=762739

"Get Gen4 quality for LESS than Gen2 pricing!"
Really?

[ShelledPants]

WTF is Gen4?

Gen3+ and Gen3 is the best on the market.

The review on that scope is saying "Can see out to at least 100yards (that's 300ish feet). That is a very small bubble of visibility for a 4.5x scope.

The reviewer also mentions a desire for a higher power IR light, which implies that the 100 yard distance is WITH active IR, which makes you a beacon of light to anyone with passive NODs.

[COL.TIKER]

Reading the specifications that retailers put up, max detection range is 400 yards. But I guess thats not really practical unless you somehow end up in whatever ideal condition they were in when they are testing it eh?

This review mentions rabbits at 300 yards and foxes at 200 yards.
http://www.scottcountry.co.uk/images/012-014.pdf

[Rommen]

And you have to get around this little problem: WARNING: Night Vision cannot be shipped to CA; D.C.; MA; Canada or Puerto Rico. Night Vision cannot be shipped Parcel Post. Please check your State, County and City laws for restrictions before ordering Night Vision.

Saw that at bottom of page.

[COL.TIKER]

Originally Posted by Rommen

And you have to get around this little problem: WARNING: Night Vision cannot be shipped to CA; D.C.; MA; Canada or Puerto Rico. Night Vision cannot be shipped Parcel Post. Please check your State, County and City laws for restrictions before ordering Night Vision.

Saw that at bottom of page.

Yea, I saw that. I thought that website shipped to Canada, since it ended in dot ca.

Anyways, there seems to be a store in North York that carry this product.

But how does this scope compare vs the other stuff under the $1500 price mark?

[Kos-Mos]

Originally Posted by COL.TIKER

Yea, I saw that. I thought that website shipped to Canada, since it ended in dot ca.

Anyways, there seems to be a store in North York that carry this product.

But how does this scope compare vs the other stuff under the $1500 price mark?

www.bbbastard.com

They have access to Pulsar NVS

[Danke]

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forum...-night-vision/

Is a very well written NVG how to that I won't poach and post here.

Spoiler alert, when this was written digital (unless it was the megadollar type) did not deliver.