S&T Tavor 21 inquiry

Reaver_RRTS · May 1st, 2013, 19:31

Saw a brand new Spartan Imports Tar21 at a local store. Liked the look and did some research on it, but nothing other than first impressions and personal opinions had been documented. I'm interested in this marker over the ARES version mainly due to price, second, weight. The S&T weighs 4.2 lbs while the Ares weighs 7 lbs. I've held the Ares, and the massive rear weight is fairly uncomfortable for a smaller player like me. Plus, I don't have $600 bucks to blow on another marker. The 'better half' would kill me. lol.

Basically, what I want to know is if ANYONE here has first hand experience using it, owns it and if it's worth the price. The store has placed it on hold for me, while I do my research. From what I know thus far, the particular model in question has the poly carbonate gearbox (yes i know they're not the best now a days) but I know there is a metal gear box version for the same price I just need to track one down.

If anyone can tell me anything about it, range, accuracy, feed consistency, ANYTHING that will help me decide yay or nay would help. Thanks.

~Reaver

AngelusNex · May 1st, 2013, 20:30

It's made of shitty thin plastic shell as opposed to ARES' polymer shell. You'll save a bunch of cash initially, but after replacing the gun every time you drop it you're wallet will hurt.

Also, marker.... no...

EchoFourTwelve · May 1st, 2013, 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelusNex

It's made of shitty thin plastic shell as opposed to ARES' polymer shell. You'll save a bunch of cash initially, but after replacing the gun every time you drop it you're wallet will hurt.

Also, marker.... no...

I agree with what AngelusNex said.

also @AngelusNex not even a sharpie?

AngelusNex · May 1st, 2013, 21:21

Ok, Sharpie or even those new Crayola ones my daughter likes but none other.

skalnok · May 1st, 2013, 21:23

Poly carb gearbox is overstating it... And plastic body doesn't ween compare to the area ones. A pretty good comparison would be going to Burger King instead of moxies...

Bracketman · May 9th, 2013, 01:45

Just a quick jump into this. S&T also makes a 'professional' version which has a metal gearbox, a blowback feature, and a polymer body. I don't know if they're up here yet, but they seem to be in direct competition with ARES version for under 1/2 the price.

CR0M · May 9th, 2013, 02:43

I thought that the first versions of the s&t tavor were that plastic and plastic gearbox. Im pretty sure they are polymer and metal gearboxes now... theres a video on youtube i watched a while back comparing it to the ares. For the price it wasnt bad, something like groove marks/ lines in the body... big woop... and i could be mistaken but it was something lile the battery compartment being bigger. I dont know...

When you ask peoples opinions on certain airsoft guns, i would only take the ones into account who've actually owned the gun or gamed it a few times...

pestobanana · May 9th, 2013, 03:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by CR0M

I thought that the first versions of the s&t tavor were that plastic and plastic gearbox. Im pretty sure they are polymer and metal gearboxes now... theres a video on youtube i watched a while back comparing it to the ares. For the price it wasnt bad, something like groove marks/ lines in the body... big woop... and i could be mistaken but it was something lile the battery compartment being bigger. I dont know...

When you ask peoples opinions on certain airsoft guns, i would only take the ones into account who've actually owned the gun or gamed it a few times...

ARES internals are made by S&T, at least on their 2011 guns. S&T was engraved on my friend's gear set.

CR0M · May 9th, 2013, 05:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestobanana

ARES internals are made by S&T, at least on their 2011 guns. S&T was engraved on my friend's gear set.

Yeah, ive seen or read that somewhere too but wasnt sure.

Adamlxlx · May 9th, 2013, 08:14

I have one of those cheap s&t tavors. They aren't THAT bad damn. Been through many games, dropped, and is gets lipo

Still in one piece. Its a nice light gun for my girlfriend.

Reaver_RRTS · May 9th, 2013, 09:45

It's a nice 'marker' (and yes, i refer to airsoft guns and paintball guns as 'markers' out of habit) and the seams being raised aren't new to me. The G&G G96 gas sniper rifle had the seams raised and i just sanded them down. Not a big deal. Thanks guys, but I just got an offer for the G&G FN2000 for $400 with a few upgrades in it. So i'll be taking that, since the F2000 is my preferred and favorite rifle. Still, might think about picking it up anyway.... But the one the company has IS the plastic gearbox version...

Adamlxlx · May 9th, 2013, 12:15

Airsoft guns are not markers in any way

Mine has the plastic gearbox. Shoots 380 and is still in one piece.

Reaver_RRTS · May 9th, 2013, 12:26

Like I said, force of habit from paintball. For some reason it feels weird for me to say 'gun' in reference to airsoft when I know it isn't a real firearm. Idk it's just me lol.

DustMagnet · May 9th, 2013, 14:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adamlxlx

Airsoft guns are not markers in any way

A welt is a type of mark...

Brian McIlmoyle · May 9th, 2013, 14:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaver_RRTS

Like I said, force of habit from paintball. For some reason it feels weird for me to say 'gun' in reference to airsoft when I know it isn't a real firearm. Idk it's just me lol.

it is a firearm, just an unregulated one

it's a gun.. used for shooting .. let go of your liberal upbringing, violence is not bad, guns are not evil.

you must not act the way you were brought up,

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May 1st, 2013, 19:31	#1
Reaver_RRTS Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Ingersoll, Ontario	S&T Tavor 21 inquiry Saw a brand new Spartan Imports Tar21 at a local store. Liked the look and did some research on it, but nothing other than first impressions and personal opinions had been documented. I'm interested in this marker over the ARES version mainly due to price, second, weight. The S&T weighs 4.2 lbs while the Ares weighs 7 lbs. I've held the Ares, and the massive rear weight is fairly uncomfortable for a smaller player like me. Plus, I don't have $600 bucks to blow on another marker. The 'better half' would kill me. lol. Basically, what I want to know is if ANYONE here has first hand experience using it, owns it and if it's worth the price. The store has placed it on hold for me, while I do my research. From what I know thus far, the particular model in question has the poly carbonate gearbox (yes i know they're not the best now a days) but I know there is a metal gear box version for the same price I just need to track one down. If anyone can tell me anything about it, range, accuracy, feed consistency, ANYTHING that will help me decide yay or nay would help. Thanks. ~Reaver

May 9th, 2013, 02:43	#7
CR0M Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hamilton	I thought that the first versions of the s&t tavor were that plastic and plastic gearbox. Im pretty sure they are polymer and metal gearboxes now... theres a video on youtube i watched a while back comparing it to the ares. For the price it wasnt bad, something like groove marks/ lines in the body... big woop... and i could be mistaken but it was something lile the battery compartment being bigger. I dont know... When you ask peoples opinions on certain airsoft guns, i would only take the ones into account who've actually owned the gun or gamed it a few times... __________________ WBR

May 1st, 2013, 20:30	#2
AngelusNex formerly Sepulcrum Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kingston,ON, aka Funkasia	It's made of shitty thin plastic shell as opposed to ARES' polymer shell. You'll save a bunch of cash initially, but after replacing the gun every time you drop it you're wallet will hurt. Also, marker.... no...

May 1st, 2013, 21:21	#4
AngelusNex formerly Sepulcrum Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kingston,ON, aka Funkasia	Ok, Sharpie or even those new Crayola ones my daughter likes but none other.

May 9th, 2013, 01:45	#6
Bracketman Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2010	Just a quick jump into this. S&T also makes a 'professional' version which has a metal gearbox, a blowback feature, and a polymer body. I don't know if they're up here yet, but they seem to be in direct competition with ARES version for under 1/2 the price.

May 9th, 2013, 09:45	#11
Reaver_RRTS Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Ingersoll, Ontario	It's a nice 'marker' (and yes, i refer to airsoft guns and paintball guns as 'markers' out of habit) and the seams being raised aren't new to me. The G&G G96 gas sniper rifle had the seams raised and i just sanded them down. Not a big deal. Thanks guys, but I just got an offer for the G&G FN2000 for $400 with a few upgrades in it. So i'll be taking that, since the F2000 is my preferred and favorite rifle. Still, might think about picking it up anyway.... But the one the company has IS the plastic gearbox version...

May 9th, 2013, 12:26	#13
Reaver_RRTS Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Ingersoll, Ontario	Like I said, force of habit from paintball. For some reason it feels weird for me to say 'gun' in reference to airsoft when I know it isn't a real firearm. Idk it's just me lol.

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