Support gunner

hachey · April 24th, 2013, 20:40

I've decided to take on the support gunner role, though it would be fun. Starting to notice that alot of the bigger games will have a amo cap or no auto alowed. I understand the over shooting aspect but any other reason?

Brian McIlmoyle · April 24th, 2013, 20:44

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Originally Posted by hachey

I've decided to take on the support gunner role, though it would be fun. Starting to notice that alot of the bigger games will have a amo cap or no auto alowed. I understand the over shooting aspect but any other reason?

No auto allowed.. generally only indoors, or at Zombie games where you are shooting unarmed players.

Ammo CAP for greater realism so that having a saw or any gun for that matter is not a license to hose.

If you want to run a support gun.. it is a benefit to be in shape.. the gun is heavier .. and you are often on the flanks.

hachey · April 24th, 2013, 21:12

Sorry should of been more specific I do have mk43. I do understand the hosing down problem, my intention was to try to bring a realistic curve to the game. But as for the zombie games well....lol does sound like fun.

Brian McIlmoyle · April 24th, 2013, 21:30

I'm running a SAW this season.. M249, I run it from midcap mags, no bulky fragile always crapping out box mag, and realistic ammo supply, works fine, and is loads of fun.

hachey · April 24th, 2013, 21:36

Thanks for you time. I do appreciate your feedback.

m102404 · April 25th, 2013, 09:56

The main reason of an ammo cap is to make people move. With limited resources you've got to relocate to get a good shot, you need to be sure of your ambush, you can't suppress indefinitely, hunkering down to endlessly plink at each other doesn't work....etc.

And...the ammo limit should try and reflect the difference in firepower between different types of weapons to add to the gameplay.

Ammo limits/box mags/etc...do nothing to limit hosing the field, that's up to the guy doing the shooting. The hosing is just briefer and comes to an end sooner.

hachey · April 25th, 2013, 17:02

Now with all that said, in your opinion (opinion only) do you think that they would consider letting a support weapon in? Again just opinions or even negotiate pointers to help plea a case.

ThunderCactus · April 25th, 2013, 18:21

most games usually have special rules for LMGs, but they're typically not allowed indoors unless everyone knows you really well

nichtessen · April 25th, 2013, 20:09

Is it possible to run the cyma AKM as a "rpd" just a shortened version. Was planning on getting abit better gearbox with a mosfet for a 3-4 round burst and a real rpd bipod with either ak mid caps or a drum mag. Can this be labeled as a support weapon or just a standard AR ?

Disco_Dante · April 25th, 2013, 20:21

It would be an AKM with a drum mag. The RPK has a reinforced receiver that is aesthetically different. The barrel would also be too short for you to mount an RPK bipod. If you run it with regular magazines, then you're just using an AK with a bipod, there's no need for special rules.

Latvian291 · April 25th, 2013, 20:21

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Originally Posted by nichtessen

Is it possible to run the cyma AKM as a "rpd" just a shortened version. Was planning on getting abit better gearbox with a mosfet for a 3-4 round burst and a real rpd bipod with either ak mid caps or a drum mag. Can this be labeled as a support weapon or just a standard AR ?

An RPD and an AKM aren't the same animal. The RPD was designed in the last days of world war two by a different firearms engineer. The AK was developed by Kalashnikov beginning in 1947, although the AKM wasn't introduced until the 60s IIRC.

If you are running an imaginary gun you made yourself I guess it can be anything you want.

hachey · April 25th, 2013, 20:34

You have been really helpful, so far this has been a good forum for my few questions. Thanks everyone for taking the time. Just waiting to go out and have fun. And one day I'll be able to bring out my son. Seems to be a better environment than paintball.

hachey · April 25th, 2013, 20:34

Much better

nichtessen · April 25th, 2013, 20:49

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Originally Posted by Latvian291

An RPD and an AKM aren't the same animal. The RPD was designed in the last days of world war two by a different firearms engineer. The AK was developed by Kalashnikov beginning in 1947, although the AKM wasn't introduced until the 60s IIRC.

If you are running an imaginary gun you made yourself I guess it can be anything you want.

I know they are not the same, was just wondering if needed I could run it as an RPD type AKM. Pretty much just using a drum mag if needed to be a support.

Disco_Dante · April 25th, 2013, 21:31

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Originally Posted by nichtessen

I know they are not the same, was just wondering if needed I could run it as an RPD type AKM. Pretty much just using a drum mag if needed to be a support.

No, he's trying to tell you that you're confusing the RPD with the RPK. The gun you're thinking of, the one that looks like a stretched out AK, that's called an RPK, not an RPD.

An RPD is belt fed, not magazine fed, and is a completely separate weapon. Probably zero parts compatibility.

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April 24th, 2013, 20:40	#1
hachey Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Sarnia	Support gunner I've decided to take on the support gunner role, though it would be fun. Starting to notice that alot of the bigger games will have a amo cap or no auto alowed. I understand the over shooting aspect but any other reason?

April 24th, 2013, 21:30	#4
Brian McIlmoyle 8=======D Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto	I'm running a SAW this season.. M249, I run it from midcap mags, no bulky fragile always crapping out box mag, and realistic ammo supply, works fine, and is loads of fun. __________________ Brian McIlmoyle TTAC3 Director CAPS Range Officer Toronto Downtown Age Verifier OPERATION WOODSMAN If the tongue could cut as the sword does, the dead would be infinite

April 25th, 2013, 20:09	#9
nichtessen Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Mississauga	Is it possible to run the cyma AKM as a "rpd" just a shortened version. Was planning on getting abit better gearbox with a mosfet for a 3-4 round burst and a real rpd bipod with either ak mid caps or a drum mag. Can this be labeled as a support weapon or just a standard AR ? __________________ *“the kingdom of God is within man”, not one man nor a group of men, but in all men! In you! You, the people, have the power, the power to create machines, the power to create happiness!*

April 24th, 2013, 21:12	#3
hachey Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Sarnia	Sorry should of been more specific I do have mk43. I do understand the hosing down problem, my intention was to try to bring a realistic curve to the game. But as for the zombie games well....lol does sound like fun.

April 24th, 2013, 21:36	#5
hachey Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Sarnia	Thanks for you time. I do appreciate your feedback.

April 25th, 2013, 09:56	#6
m102404 Tys Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto	The main reason of an ammo cap is to make people move. With limited resources you've got to relocate to get a good shot, you need to be sure of your ambush, you can't suppress indefinitely, hunkering down to endlessly plink at each other doesn't work....etc. And...the ammo limit should try and reflect the difference in firepower between different types of weapons to add to the gameplay. Ammo limits/box mags/etc...do nothing to limit hosing the field, that's up to the guy doing the shooting. The hosing is just briefer and comes to an end sooner.

April 25th, 2013, 17:02	#7
hachey Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Sarnia	Now with all that said, in your opinion (opinion only) do you think that they would consider letting a support weapon in? Again just opinions or even negotiate pointers to help plea a case.

April 25th, 2013, 18:21	#8
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	most games usually have special rules for LMGs, but they're typically not allowed indoors unless everyone knows you really well

April 25th, 2013, 20:21	#10
Disco_Dante Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: GTA	It would be an AKM with a drum mag. The RPK has a reinforced receiver that is aesthetically different. The barrel would also be too short for you to mount an RPK bipod. If you run it with regular magazines, then you're just using an AK with a bipod, there's no need for special rules. __________________ Not for glory, nor riches, nor honours, but for freedom alone, which no good man gives up except with his life.

April 25th, 2013, 20:34	#12
hachey Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Sarnia	You have been really helpful, so far this has been a good forum for my few questions. Thanks everyone for taking the time. Just waiting to go out and have fun. And one day I'll be able to bring out my son. Seems to be a better environment than paintball.

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