Sniper training

CDN_Stalker · June 22nd, 2011, 14:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkAngel

Ive got a 5kg CA M24. Ask me how fun it is to lug that beast around. Thats not including my sidearm, mags for both, 3L hydro pouch and a ghillies.

Snipers are NOT easy roles. You want easy roles, go get an LMG.

I never minded having my two-four on my back, but often I'd have what you listed, plus my MP5 and a pile of mags for it, maybe a second sidearm.

Dart · June 22nd, 2011, 14:30

I'm very surprised that the CA m24 weighs that much. Whats a TSD vsr like 4lbs? Goes to show the difference in build.

jomor · June 22nd, 2011, 18:20

Wow did that ever go off topic. My fault to. I find it much easier crawling and climbing with a heavy load rather than sprinting is all I meant and no snipers do not have it easy, rather its more difficlut, but in my oppinion much more satisfying!
So back to to sniper school.....where, when, how much, what about level 1? You only mentioned level 2.

Hectic · June 22nd, 2011, 20:02

All are welcome to use a lvl1 bolt action rifle 450fps w.20'S once u take a lvl2 course your alloud 500 if the field and host allow lvl3 is 550, there are MED's (minimum engagement distances) to adhear to for safe operation at theese higher velocities and the couse allows us to prove to the community through a respected member that we can recognize theese distances and no when to not take a shot due to safty

DarkAngel · June 22nd, 2011, 22:32

Within the next month or two, ill have a clinic posted.

the CA M24 is like 3.8kg, plus bipod, cheek pouch, scope, sling etc etc etc. Im ballparking it around 5kg.

Not all of us are skinny and in shape anymore like you stalker lol. The last 3 years behind a desk have not been good for me lol.

REAPER426 · June 22nd, 2011, 22:53

i'm in for atleast the lv1 training. I use a svd andi'm thinking about a ca24. So if it happens (training) I'm down for sure

jomor · June 23rd, 2011, 23:34

I have an RS SVD a CA M24, a G&G G96 and a new Javelin M24 that is real junk. They are all shooting in the mid 400s with .2 so I'm good for now. However once something is up for Level 2 I will take it any way. Any training is good training gauging range, aiming for distance etc is right up my alley!
Thanks guys for all your imput, please keep me posted on any training schools.

CDN_Stalker · June 24th, 2011, 09:23

Reason for the CA M24's impressive weight (and what also makes it very quiet to shoot, all sound and vibration is kept within the gun)is in the rifle itself, it has a SOLID composite stock (unsure the material) and the receiver/outer barrel is solid cast metal, minimum 1/8" thick, in places. Add on a decent sized scope, maybe a bipod............. mine is about 14lbs, and at one point I had my stock w/bipod in one hand and the barrel w/scope in the other, they balanced out pretty good. Always found it funny other complete rifles weighed as much as my stock alone.

SniperSam · June 24th, 2011, 09:59

Indeed, for my VSR10s I filled the hollow stock with spray-on insulation foam (cheap and can get at any hardware store) which effectively silenced the sound and added a couple ounces to the general weight.

jomor · June 24th, 2011, 21:47

What a great Idea, adding the foam in the stock. I will have to do that to the Javelin once I'm done with the upgrades on it. Out of the 3 or 4 sniper weapons I have the SVD is the one that surprised me the most. Right out of the box it was bang on accurate.

Mr. inked · July 9th, 2011, 19:14

even if someone is a lvl 2/3 can the person in charge of the field still say that a hot weapon is not aloud? if so what would the point of geting certified be not trying to shoot you down im actually some what interested in doing this just trying to get some more info about it

coach · July 9th, 2011, 19:31

Yes. Regardless of what level people are, the field owner and or host have the right to limit the max allowable fps. So for a level 2 to be certified for 500 fps, there will be times where they cannot exceed 450 or even 400 fps. A lot of fields also dictate this as there's not enough space to physically run higher fps guns. Also, some host will ask the attendees if there are any veto's.

Urrah! · July 9th, 2011, 19:51

I know I'll get 88 flak guns for this, but take my advice: Go hunting and spend a lot of time stalking wild animals or a friend (in the wilderness). Experience tells me that this is one of the best ways to learn how to be the "hunter".

If your friend or the animal notices you, then you have failed. Start over from the place you began. Also, pay very close attention to all of your surroundings. Memorize and create a mental picture in your mind. If there have been any changes, take note and inspect them from afar.

Just some of my ten cents there.

Mr. inked · July 9th, 2011, 22:57

alright thanks coachster and thats a good tip Urrah sucks to be that friend though haha

Urrah! · July 10th, 2011, 21:58

Ha ha, well, just buy him a beer or something after.

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June 22nd, 2011, 18:20	#18
jomor Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ottawa	Age Wow did that ever go off topic. My fault to. I find it much easier crawling and climbing with a heavy load rather than sprinting is all I meant and no snipers do not have it easy, rather its more difficlut, but in my oppinion much more satisfying! So back to to sniper school.....where, when, how much, what about level 1? You only mentioned level 2.

June 22nd, 2011, 22:32	#20
DarkAngel * Age Verifier status suspended * Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Scarborough	Within the next month or two, ill have a clinic posted. the CA M24 is like 3.8kg, plus bipod, cheek pouch, scope, sling etc etc etc. Im ballparking it around 5kg. Not all of us are skinny and in shape anymore like you stalker lol. The last 3 years behind a desk have not been good for me lol. __________________ Certified Sniper Clinic Instructor and Counter Sniper Sentinel Arms Customs - Specializing In Unique, One of a kind guns

June 23rd, 2011, 23:34	#22
jomor Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ottawa	Sniper I have an RS SVD a CA M24, a G&G G96 and a new Javelin M24 that is real junk. They are all shooting in the mid 400s with .2 so I'm good for now. However once something is up for Level 2 I will take it any way. Any training is good training gauging range, aiming for distance etc is right up my alley! Thanks guys for all your imput, please keep me posted on any training schools.

June 22nd, 2011, 14:30	#17
Dart Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Grande Prairie Alberta	I'm very surprised that the CA m24 weighs that much. Whats a TSD vsr like 4lbs? Goes to show the difference in build.

June 22nd, 2011, 22:53	#21
REAPER426 Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Angus	i'm in for atleast the lv1 training. I use a svd andi'm thinking about a ca24. So if it happens (training) I'm down for sure

June 24th, 2011, 09:23	#23
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	Reason for the CA M24's impressive weight (and what also makes it very quiet to shoot, all sound and vibration is kept within the gun)is in the rifle itself, it has a SOLID composite stock (unsure the material) and the receiver/outer barrel is solid cast metal, minimum 1/8" thick, in places. Add on a decent sized scope, maybe a bipod............. mine is about 14lbs, and at one point I had my stock w/bipod in one hand and the barrel w/scope in the other, they balanced out pretty good. Always found it funny other complete rifles weighed as much as my stock alone. __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

June 24th, 2011, 09:59	#24
SniperSam Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Edmonton, AB	Indeed, for my VSR10s I filled the hollow stock with spray-on insulation foam (cheap and can get at any hardware store) which effectively silenced the sound and added a couple ounces to the general weight. __________________ Proud Member of the Strelok society Whoa guy with the thumb rings, save some pussy for the rest of us Welcome to Bed Bath and Beyoncé, if you find anything you like, put a ring on it. What idiot called them Black Bears instead of African Abearicans

June 24th, 2011, 21:47	#25
jomor Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ottawa	Foam What a great Idea, adding the foam in the stock. I will have to do that to the Javelin once I'm done with the upgrades on it. Out of the 3 or 4 sniper weapons I have the SVD is the one that surprised me the most. Right out of the box it was bang on accurate.

July 9th, 2011, 19:14	#26
Mr. inked Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: London ontario	even if someone is a lvl 2/3 can the person in charge of the field still say that a hot weapon is not aloud? if so what would the point of geting certified be not trying to shoot you down im actually some what interested in doing this just trying to get some more info about it __________________ Once more into the fray Into the last good fight I'll ever know Live and die on this day Live and die on this day

July 9th, 2011, 19:31	#27
coach aka coachster Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: T dot	Yes. Regardless of what level people are, the field owner and or host have the right to limit the max allowable fps. So for a level 2 to be certified for 500 fps, there will be times where they cannot exceed 450 or even 400 fps. A lot of fields also dictate this as there's not enough space to physically run higher fps guns. Also, some host will ask the attendees if there are any veto's.

July 9th, 2011, 19:51	#28
Urrah! Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Oil Park, Canuckistan	I know I'll get 88 flak guns for this, but take my advice: Go hunting and spend a lot of time stalking wild animals or a friend (in the wilderness). Experience tells me that this is one of the best ways to learn how to be the "hunter". If your friend or the animal notices you, then you have failed. Start over from the place you began. Also, pay very close attention to all of your surroundings. Memorize and create a mental picture in your mind. If there have been any changes, take note and inspect them from afar. Just some of my ten cents there. __________________ In loving memory of Omeljan Kuzik.

July 9th, 2011, 22:57	#29
Mr. inked Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: London ontario	alright thanks coachster and thats a good tip Urrah sucks to be that friend though haha __________________ Once more into the fray Into the last good fight I'll ever know Live and die on this day Live and die on this day

July 10th, 2011, 21:58	#30
Urrah! Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Oil Park, Canuckistan	Ha ha, well, just buy him a beer or something after. __________________ In loving memory of Omeljan Kuzik.

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