Colt Model 629 XM177E2 Systema PTW

attack-beaver · November 26th, 2007, 02:47

does systema make the original 20rd AR mags or those custom??

mcguyver · November 26th, 2007, 02:51

Custom. Made from real VN 20 rounders if I'm not mistaken.

SBranson23 · November 26th, 2007, 20:01

That is correct. I used real mags for the shells. The inner mags were cut down and glued back together. The tough part is getting the holes for the retaining pins lined up.

immortalundead · November 26th, 2007, 20:13

amazing job on that ptw, must have taken forever to work on those mags

H-G · November 26th, 2007, 21:37

VERY cool!!!

Dynamo · November 26th, 2007, 21:38

thats one awsome job on that gun.
i would love to know more about the LIPO battery you'r using.

SBranson23 · November 26th, 2007, 22:16

Yes the mags did take some time. I have done 14 of them in total. Some worked out better than others but they all work well now.
It's quite involved getting the channels to line up properly then there's some cutting and sanding to get the transition smooth.

The battery I'm using is this one:
http://www.ddairsoft.com/product_inf...products_id=41

I have Systema's new high efficiency 490B motor so it has plenty of power and capacity for my use.

Renegade) · November 26th, 2007, 22:41

Man that is just so well done.. That I would say would be the ONLY PTW I would own.. I really like how you can just convert it from the XM to the M16 VN by just swapping some furniture. The mags as well, awsome touch to finish up the project.

Well done!

immortalundead · November 26th, 2007, 22:50

good job on those mags then, its really nice to see the hard work and patience that went into making it look like a gun instead of adding everything but the kitchen sink, even though there is nothing wrong with that either

Dynamo · November 26th, 2007, 22:59

so what did you need to do to install that battery, and what charger are you using? also, are you using any sort of low voltage cutoff and what kind of ROF do you get with whatever spring you are using.
i got a project i want to start thats going to use the same betteries, but im not sure if 11.1v is too much for what i'll be running.

Stealth_Omega · November 26th, 2007, 23:11

You should post that up on http://www.incountry.ca/icforums/ the guys in there would love it.

SBranson23 · November 26th, 2007, 23:25

Thanks so much for the kind words. It's nice to see others appreciate the older styles. As said, there's nothing wrong with adding scopes and lights and lasers and grips but for me it's the simple clean lines that appeal.
The mags were the touch that really sets the mood of the era I think. Alot of work and refinements and to get the best lines of cut and angles of the cuts but I think it was worth it. At one point I thought I would do 20 of them seeing as I can only get about 35-40 rounds per mag but I have tired of the process after 14 and a couple that needed extra work due to misfeeding problems. I guess 14 and a couple regular mags as backup will be plenty.

As far as the battery goes. To install, it just fits in the stock tube. As the earlier picture shows, the PTW has electronics in the stock tube so I can't close the stock completely while in use.
With the efficient motor, the ROF with the 11.1V is about the same as the regular 480 motor with a 9.6V. The 11.1V on the 480 motor is a very fast ROF.
Again with this motor, I don't use a low voltage cut-off pr warning as I was careful to guage the reading of the battery after a game and approximate mag usage. In a regular day, with my style of play, I may go through 600 rounds. Not many. That is and average with some days more (depending on the games) and other days even less. With the 480 motor on a busy day, I would get the capacity down to about the 30% level but still above the 11.1 rated voltage so no problems there. With the 490B motor in after and average day, the battery still reads 65% capacity. Plenty of juice for even 2 days of play. Granted these are based on PTW motors so I don't know how that would compare in a non PTW.
The charger I use is this one:
http://www.fmadirect.com/products.htm?cat=45&nid=4

Excellently Lipo dedicated charger. Really good service too. You need to buy the appropriate adapter as well.

SBranson23 · November 26th, 2007, 23:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth_Omega

You should post that up on http://www.incountry.ca/icforums/ the guys in there would love it.

I just started looking at that site. I will post this up there, maybe tonight.
There's not alot of Nam interest out here that I've come across.

Stealth_Omega · November 26th, 2007, 23:42

There used to be a few out in BC one guy had an awesome LRRP impression but I think he got out of it unfortunately.

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November 26th, 2007, 02:51	#17
mcguyver Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Alberta	Custom. Made from real VN 20 rounders if I'm not mistaken. __________________ Age verifier Northern Alberta Democracy is two wolves and a sheep discussing what's for dinner. Freedom is the wolves limping away while the sheep reloads. Never confuse freedom with democracy.

November 26th, 2007, 21:38	#21
Dynamo Harvester of Noobs' Sorrow Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: T̆͒ͥ̓̿̅̈́̐͊̿͗̐̾̃͐ͧ&#8	thats one awsome job on that gun. i would love to know more about the LIPO battery you'r using. __________________ Weapons Technician / Gunsmith Don't look at me, I don't know, lol ¯\(°_o)/¯.

November 26th, 2007, 22:41	#23
Renegade) A Total Bastard Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tottenham, Ontario	Man that is just so well done.. That I would say would be the ONLY PTW I would own.. I really like how you can just convert it from the XM to the M16 VN by just swapping some furniture. The mags as well, awsome touch to finish up the project. Well done! __________________ W1-5

November 26th, 2007, 02:47	#16
attack-beaver Trader rating Join Date: May 2005 Location: calgary	does systema make the original 20rd AR mags or those custom??

November 26th, 2007, 20:01	#18
SBranson23 Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Victoria,B.C.	That is correct. I used real mags for the shells. The inner mags were cut down and glued back together. The tough part is getting the holes for the retaining pins lined up.

November 26th, 2007, 20:13	#19
immortalundead Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Cookshire-Eaton, Qc	amazing job on that ptw, must have taken forever to work on those mags

November 26th, 2007, 22:16	#22
SBranson23 Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Victoria,B.C.	Yes the mags did take some time. I have done 14 of them in total. Some worked out better than others but they all work well now. It's quite involved getting the channels to line up properly then there's some cutting and sanding to get the transition smooth. The battery I'm using is this one: http://www.ddairsoft.com/product_inf...products_id=41 I have Systema's new high efficiency 490B motor so it has plenty of power and capacity for my use.

November 26th, 2007, 22:50	#24
immortalundead Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Cookshire-Eaton, Qc	good job on those mags then, its really nice to see the hard work and patience that went into making it look like a gun instead of adding everything but the kitchen sink, even though there is nothing wrong with that either Last edited by immortalundead; November 26th, 2007 at 23:12..

November 26th, 2007, 22:59	#25
Dynamo Harvester of Noobs' Sorrow Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: T̆͒ͥ̓̿̅̈́̐͊̿͗̐̾̃͐ͧ&#8	so what did you need to do to install that battery, and what charger are you using? also, are you using any sort of low voltage cutoff and what kind of ROF do you get with whatever spring you are using. i got a project i want to start thats going to use the same betteries, but im not sure if 11.1v is too much for what i'll be running. __________________ Weapons Technician / Gunsmith Don't look at me, I don't know, lol ¯\(°_o)/¯.

November 26th, 2007, 23:11	#26
Stealth_Omega Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Winnipeg, Namitoba	You should post that up on http://www.incountry.ca/icforums/ the guys in there would love it. __________________

November 26th, 2007, 23:25	#27
SBranson23 Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Victoria,B.C.	Thanks so much for the kind words. It's nice to see others appreciate the older styles. As said, there's nothing wrong with adding scopes and lights and lasers and grips but for me it's the simple clean lines that appeal. The mags were the touch that really sets the mood of the era I think. Alot of work and refinements and to get the best lines of cut and angles of the cuts but I think it was worth it. At one point I thought I would do 20 of them seeing as I can only get about 35-40 rounds per mag but I have tired of the process after 14 and a couple that needed extra work due to misfeeding problems. I guess 14 and a couple regular mags as backup will be plenty. As far as the battery goes. To install, it just fits in the stock tube. As the earlier picture shows, the PTW has electronics in the stock tube so I can't close the stock completely while in use. With the efficient motor, the ROF with the 11.1V is about the same as the regular 480 motor with a 9.6V. The 11.1V on the 480 motor is a very fast ROF. Again with this motor, I don't use a low voltage cut-off pr warning as I was careful to guage the reading of the battery after a game and approximate mag usage. In a regular day, with my style of play, I may go through 600 rounds. Not many. That is and average with some days more (depending on the games) and other days even less. With the 480 motor on a busy day, I would get the capacity down to about the 30% level but still above the 11.1 rated voltage so no problems there. With the 490B motor in after and average day, the battery still reads 65% capacity. Plenty of juice for even 2 days of play. Granted these are based on PTW motors so I don't know how that would compare in a non PTW. The charger I use is this one: http://www.fmadirect.com/products.htm?cat=45&nid=4 Excellently Lipo dedicated charger. Really good service too. You need to buy the appropriate adapter as well. Last edited by SBranson23; November 26th, 2007 at 23:29..

November 26th, 2007, 23:42	#29
Stealth_Omega Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Winnipeg, Namitoba	There used to be a few out in BC one guy had an awesome LRRP impression but I think he got out of it unfortunately. __________________

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