All other pistols are just toy junk

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by kalnaren

I always thought the TM 1911 series was about the best. Never owned one myself, but everyone I've talked to says they're awesome.

Couldn't agree more. Bought one.. fell in love with it so I sold the rest of my pistols and bought a second one. Added metal outer barrels, Tanio Koba twist barrels and the enhanced loading nozzle. Can hit a head sized target up to 60 feet (indoors with no wind). Wouldn't carry anything else as a sidearm.

[jtf2-phalanx]

Originally Posted by kalnaren

Last time I checked, Apple didn't make GBB's.

HAHA

[ILLusion]

Originally Posted by LUTNIT

The TM P226 can shoot upwards of 390fps on propane,

Woah, what parts do you have in your P226? I've NEVER seen a GBB with a barrel that short shoot that hot on propane. Even my highly modified open division Hi-Capa racegun with 7" 6.01mm tightbore can only hit 380fps with propane.

Originally Posted by LUTNIT

you can build one from scratch with aftermarket parts only, though it does have some gas efficiency problems. Not metal out of the box but you have a lot of choices for metal kits. The TM Hi-Cappa is similar, every single part in the gun down to the tiniest little bit can be bought aftermarket.

Really? Help me find some of those parts, I've been attempting to do this for 4 years, and I thought I had all the good hook ups! Where do you get your parts?
I've been able to source all major parts and the majority of small parts, but I'm still missing some minor screws and springs to fully assemble complete guns from the billions of pieces I have lying around here.

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by Dracheous

hmmm... so... would they call it the iGBB or the iShoot ?

Knowing apple, probably the iPwn

Can we just smack you for that one?

I'd rather ya didn't... I was lost in the spirit of the mockery when I made that comment!

[Disco_Dante]

Originally Posted by kalnaren

Knowing apple, probably the iPwn

[Get Real]

Wow! Lets see. We have everything from yes, no, maybe, sucks, awesome, save the front sight and replace everything else and it will be great, you are a weiny for even starting the thread, etc. That is what is great about this site. One can always count on diversity. Some really good comments and education all in one thread. That is the luck of what occured here. I now have more research to do and thanks for all your comments.

[Sha Do]

LOL...as stated in the three previous pages and many, many other threads, the debate is very personal. I could throw in with WA, an old school classic, but you know what?? Get out to some games, and handle a couple of different GBBs. Check out a couple of reviews on the one's you find comfortable handleing, and see if there are any upgrade parts available for them. Then decide if it is in your budget.....

Personaly, I own two KWA M9 PTPs.
-Great out of the box (good for field use right from the go)
-Reasonably good accuracy using 0.30 weight BBs
But;
-No upgrades available
-Mag availability is random at best (and pricey if you buy direct from KWA USA)

I have owned a WA SV Infinity...rather pricey, but an amazing gun. Parts are getting harder and harder to get...

SHA DO

[pusangani]

lol what an uneducated statement to make man, WE HIcapas and and 1911's are horrible, the spring guide caps and bushings ALWAYS break, I've owned 2 1911's and 1 5.1 Hicapa OP Irene Special Edition, and trust me they all suck hairy elephant balls.

never handled the PTP but from what I've hear it aint nothing special

[The Saint]

Originally Posted by pusangani

lol what an uneducated statement to make man, WE HIcapas and and 1911's are horrible, the spring guide caps and bushings ALWAYS break

Obviously, people who have never broken a WE bushing or spring guide don't count.

[pusangani]

Originally Posted by The Saint

Obviously, people who have never broken a WE bushing or spring guide don't count.

yeh chairsofters don't count

[The Saint]

There are WE owners who have fired thousands of rounds without a bushing or spring guide failure, myself included. In my case, less than a hundred out of those thousand rounds were fired at home, much less while seated on a chair.

It's not reasonable or useful to completely exclude other people's good experience in favour of your own bad experience.

[pusangani]

Originally Posted by The Saint

There are WE owners who have fired thousands of rounds without a bushing or spring guide failure, myself included. In my case, less than a hundred out of those thousand rounds were fired at home, much less while seated on a chair.

It's not reasonable or useful to completely exclude other people's good experience in favour of your own bad experience.

so you and crunchmeister got lucky ones, I've owned 3, take a look in the doctor's corner, enough WE threads to read.

didn't mean to imply that you were a chairsofter, but based on my experience, and those of others, the WE 1911's and Hicapas are not that reliable.

[Roughneck]

From what I've seen, you have a 50/50 chance with the WE 1911's. Mine broke, a few of the other local guys had them break.. but I've seen one lad around here have two that he uses constantly and have held up.

If you buy one new, and cut the spring guide down right away.. it wont bottom out in the spring cap and break it. Problem solved.

[The Saint]

My personal guesstimate for WE's lemon rate is something like 30-40% for their older stuff, <20% for their more recent stuff. Definitely not the most reliable brand, though in countries where airsoft is legal, their very low prices more than make up for that problem. They're almost disposable in HK. In Canada, not so much.

[ancorp]

I absolutely hate Worst Ever (WE). The metal they're made of is pure crap. And their hicapa slides are way too heavy for their size. At least their 1911 and 2011 series are, haven't handled the others.

Just my experience with them. I sure miss my lil 1911 though.