C8 rifle build

sniper_elite · July 18th, 2009, 10:54

hey guys, I need some help here. Im trying to turn my M4 into a Diemaco C8 carbine and I need the lower receiver to mount an AG-C grenade launcher on it, also if anyone is selling and Elcan that would be helpful too. here's a pic for reference:

picture is courtesy of http://ww.wikipedia.org

thanks all!
-JB

Trader rating · July 18th, 2009, 11:06

The pic you posted is of a Soldier/Police Officer of a European country that also uses the C8.

If you are going for a Canadian C8(I assume you are since you posted in the Canadian section) you don't need the Elcan. All the new C8s come standard with the EoTech 552. Some units also issue C79 Elcans aswell as the EoTechs. An we use the M203 not the grenade launcher you see in that picture.

Also the lower receiver has nothing to do with the grenade launcher. The grenade launcher is mounted on the upper receiver.

An a FYI the Canadian Military hasn't used thermold mags since the early 90s, we use the STANAG magazine(same as the US)

theguy · July 18th, 2009, 11:10

i think that photo is JFT. Do they use M203s too? or do they use whatever launcher is in that photo?

Trader rating · July 18th, 2009, 11:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by theguy

i think that photo is JFT. Do they use M203s too? or do they use whatever launcher is in that photo?

JFT? You mean JTF2.. an yea that picture is not of a JTF2 member

An I just checked wiki(where he got the pic) the caption says he's a Netherlands Marine

theguy · July 18th, 2009, 11:18

yea, im sorry man, im no expert on the canadian military.

Ahh, well there you go.

Jimski · July 18th, 2009, 11:29

what's the spherical thing under his left arm?

Mr.Shiney · July 18th, 2009, 11:47

It does appear he might be wearing a dry suit, if that is the case it would be a bleeder valve.

sniper_elite · July 18th, 2009, 13:00

my apologies, I meant the lower portion of the handguard. And how would that work with an Elcan AND an EOtech 552? I understand about the M203 but I already have an AG-C lying about and thought it would be much easier than buying and M203

Conker · July 18th, 2009, 13:11

I think he meant that some units are issued both optics, but use either one of these, not both, depending on their operational requirements.

Lerch · July 18th, 2009, 13:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by sniper_elite

my apologies, I meant the lower portion of the handguard. And how would that work with an Elcan AND an EOtech 552? I understand about the M203 but I already have an AG-C lying about and thought it would be much easier than buying and M203

Well if you're up for building the Dutch C8, you'll be hard pressed to ever find an AGC/UGL mount. The only chance you've got is to buy a surplus Dutch mount, and they don't surplus them...

Maybe take a trip to the Netherlands?

sniper_elite · July 18th, 2009, 14:32

been there once, nice country. Just never thought to look for surplus mounts while I was there. Oh well, i'll try and make one custom unless there's an off chance we have an ex Netherland Marine here that decided to scrap the furniture off of his C8.....no one? no one? It was worth a try I suppose.

Vince · July 19th, 2009, 02:47

I built a C8 some time ago. Here's what you'll need

Army Code or Element C8 heavy barrel
XM-177 handguards
Element/Guarder metal receiver
Regular M4 stock (4 positions?)
Stock pad
Some OD krylon

If you're lucky to find BUIS and Triad from Diemaco that would be a nice touch. But these are kinda rare...

warbird · July 19th, 2009, 19:10

There is a Diemaco BUIS in the classifieds right now!

Lakonian · July 19th, 2009, 19:35

Diggin' his eyeliner.

I've never seen an HK manufactured launcher on an AR before. That's quite attractive.

Kokanee · July 19th, 2009, 20:11

If you want a great resource for building a current C8A2, this is a great page to check out;

http://www.casr.ca/101-rifle-c8fthb-carbine.htm

It's as authoritive a resource as you'll find on the public internet, period. Please please please pay special attention to the lack of a thermold mag!

KOS, you'll be seeing alot more of them, the M320 grenade launcher is being fielded to the 82nd airborne.

http://strikehold.wordpress.com/2009...nade-launcher/

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July 18th, 2009, 10:54	#1
sniper_elite Trader rating Join Date: May 2009 Location: America	C8 rifle build hey guys, I need some help here. Im trying to turn my M4 into a Diemaco C8 carbine and I need the lower receiver to mount an AG-C grenade launcher on it, also if anyone is selling and Elcan that would be helpful too. here's a pic for reference: picture is courtesy of http://ww.wikipedia.org thanks all! -JB __________________ "Ownage, thy name is Klashnikov" -JB

July 18th, 2009, 11:06	#2
-Skeletor- Guest Trader rating	The pic you posted is of a Soldier/Police Officer of a European country that also uses the C8. If you are going for a Canadian C8(I assume you are since you posted in the Canadian section) you don't need the Elcan. All the new C8s come standard with the EoTech 552. Some units also issue C79 Elcans aswell as the EoTechs. An we use the M203 not the grenade launcher you see in that picture. Also the lower receiver has nothing to do with the grenade launcher. The grenade launcher is mounted on the upper receiver. An a FYI the Canadian Military hasn't used thermold mags since the early 90s, we use the STANAG magazine(same as the US) Last edited by -Skeletor-; July 18th, 2009 at 11:11..

July 18th, 2009, 11:29	#6
Jimski Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Montreal	what's the spherical thing under his left arm? __________________

July 18th, 2009, 11:47	#7
Mr.Shiney Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: London,Ontario	It does appear he might be wearing a dry suit, if that is the case it would be a bleeder valve.

July 18th, 2009, 13:00	#8
sniper_elite Trader rating Join Date: May 2009 Location: America	my apologies, I meant the lower portion of the handguard. And how would that work with an Elcan AND an EOtech 552? I understand about the M203 but I already have an AG-C lying about and thought it would be much easier than buying and M203 __________________ "Ownage, thy name is Klashnikov" -JB Last edited by sniper_elite; July 18th, 2009 at 13:02..

July 18th, 2009, 13:11	#9
Conker Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada / Ireland / USA	I think he meant that some units are issued both optics, but use either one of these, not both, depending on their operational requirements. __________________ WTS: King Arms/Madbull Mk18 Mod1 - VFC Mk17 SCAR-H midcap mags, FDE - VFC Mk17 SCAR-H + PWS rail, FDE WTB/WTT: CSOR gear, BFG, Tyr, Crye, etc

July 18th, 2009, 14:32	#11
sniper_elite Trader rating Join Date: May 2009 Location: America	been there once, nice country. Just never thought to look for surplus mounts while I was there. Oh well, i'll try and make one custom unless there's an off chance we have an ex Netherland Marine here that decided to scrap the furniture off of his C8.....no one? no one? It was worth a try I suppose. __________________ "Ownage, thy name is Klashnikov" -JB

July 19th, 2009, 02:47	#12
Vince Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Drummondville QC	I built a C8 some time ago. Here's what you'll need Army Code or Element C8 heavy barrel XM-177 handguards Element/Guarder metal receiver Regular M4 stock (4 positions?) Stock pad Some OD krylon If you're lucky to find BUIS and Triad from Diemaco that would be a nice touch. But these are kinda rare... __________________ Who wants to dine in hell? Last edited by Vince; July 19th, 2009 at 02:51..

July 19th, 2009, 19:10	#13
warbird Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NB, Canada	There is a Diemaco BUIS in the classifieds right now!

July 19th, 2009, 19:35	#14
Lakonian kos Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wherever.	Diggin' his eyeliner. I've never seen an HK manufactured launcher on an AR before. That's quite attractive.

July 19th, 2009, 20:11	#15
Kokanee Ministry of Peace Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2002	If you want a great resource for building a current C8A2, this is a great page to check out; http://www.casr.ca/101-rifle-c8fthb-carbine.htm It's as authoritive a resource as you'll find on the public internet, period. Please please please pay special attention to the lack of a thermold mag! KOS, you'll be seeing alot more of them, the M320 grenade launcher is being fielded to the 82nd airborne. http://strikehold.wordpress.com/2009...nade-launcher/