KSC G17 vs HFC G17

[Gh05t]

well, im still trying to decide which is better to buy. The price difference is $100, obviously the KSC being more expensive. Well i researched that they both pretty much perform the same; only differences are the trademarks, but i dont know about internals. Does anybody know if i could replace the HFC internal parts with KSC internals? im asking because im thinking of using propane instead and i know itll wear the gun down a little faster. If i cant even find any replacable parts for the HFC, then would it be more worth it to go for the KSC? thanks for the help.

[Jayhad]

I wouldn't buy the HFC just for the reason that is doesn't have the glock trigger and it has the ultra gay serial # safety. But I am a real steel glock owner so i may be jaded

[takatorikku]

i'm trying out a pair of HFCs, and while I agree with Jayhad on his points, a cheap performer is still money saved. I'm very positive that KSC/HFC parts aren't swappable, the most obvious point being that you can't use KSC mags in an HFC and vice versa, therefore their gas systems will be different as well.

As for propane usage, the HFC G17s (I'm thinking you're going to buy one from Raygis??) are FMU, so they'll handle it no problem. Like any GBB, not maintaining it matters in terms of wear and tear.

[Jayhad]

Originally Posted by takatorikku

i'm trying out a pair of HFCs, and while I agree with Jayhad on his points, a cheap performer is still money saved. .

fair enough I have 2 KSC glocks (17 & 34)both of which are upgraded to FMU, rocket valve, high flows all the shit, roughly $600 into each and neither one works reliably, but damn do they look good on my hips

[Styrak]

I bought an HFC Glock 17 and I've put around 100+ rounds through it just shooting around the house/basement. No problems, nice kickback. I'm using propane.

[underground]

don't forget, HFC G17 has a metal slide vs the KSC which only has an ABS slide. Using propane will only wear out your plastic slide. For $100 difference AND you get a preinstalled slide, I'd go for the HFC. However, if you're into the trademarks, there's this really ugly HFC symbol on the grip of the pistol. Other than that, you're right..the HFC doesn't have any trademarks but if you're using it to play around with, its a good buy. I would buy the G17 but for $30 more, I got a KWA G19 from A&A airsoft for $250 (no trades, metal slide, no safety, good on gas). I have some reviews there as well. Hope that helps.

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if you're interested, check out my reviews here: http://aasurplus.ca/airsoft/product_...products_id=73 the pic he has up for the g19 is actually a g23f so don't get confused.

[aZn_triXta07]

In my opinion, if you just want to play and save than the HFC is a very good choice, if you're real picky on the looks than get the KSC and upgrade as you go along. From my experience with KSC Glocks, I've had like 4 KSC G18C's the quality control of the parts isn't too good unless you replace everything every so often. But if you want less hassle etc than HFC's a good one to go with.

Personally, if I can shoot you the same as you shoot me it's all good I'm no gun whore.

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by underground

However, if you're into the trademarks, there's this really ugly HFC symbol on the grip of the pistol.

There's no ugly HFC symbol on the grip. If you're talking about the gold plate/marking, it's easily removeable.

[Gh05t]

thanks for all ur help. clearly, HFC is the better pick and thats what ill be getting. thanks again.

[Styrak]

Yeah it's pretty fun man. I think you'll be happy with it.

[Gh05t]

ye.. like u, itll be my first GBB and i was getting all paranoid cuz i heard they require a lot of maintainance. and i was going to go propane too, so hearing that ur using it and its working perfectly fine makes me feel better.. haha

[CDN_Stalker]

No matter what GBB you buy, they all require a reasonable amount of maintainance, only difference between brands is quality, price and reliability. You get what you pay for in the end. Incidentally, I have a pair of KSC G19s, and they kick ass, period, have never failed on me and I am pretty aggressive with them.

[Styrak]

I retract my previous statement about being perfect. Well only part of it. I've put a few more rounds through it, and it seized up on me once. Not sure why. Maybe I was trying to fire way too fast. It's back to normal though. Not even a big deal, really.

[hattrick]

ksc is undeniably better than hfc, if you want a low end gbb at least get kwa (full metal ksc minus the hardware check) you wont end up with an unrepairable paperweight.

Hfc makes a few good nbb's, but from past experence their gbbs are garbage.

I owned a hfc m199 (semi/full auto) It constantly missfed, not to mention the ever growing list of defective parts.

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by hattrick

Hfc makes a few good nbb's, but from past experence their gbbs are garbage.

We'll see. Only time will tell.