H&k 416

[Crunchmeister]

The 614 is the Echo 1 version, which is exactly the same gun. Echo 1 is based in the US. They import JG guns, shim the mechbox properly, clean and regrease the mechbox properly. They then give them a good quality control check - the thing that's lacking in some JG guns (they're generally good, but there's still a lack of QA). They also ensure all tips are painted blaze orange for models sold in the US.

On some models, they'll apply their own Echo 1 trademarks, as in the case of the 614. Other guns like the MP5s are sold with no trademarks and are essentially the same gun as the JG version. Guns sold in the US can't have real-steel trademarks, and they can't use the real HK trades since they're not licensed to do so. Hence the 614.

They then repackage them with their own packaging and sell them as Echo 1. So what you get is a Jing Gong gun that's been serviced for reliability, a better manual (for some models, others come with the Jing Gong manual), and all the parts, batteries and accessories that originally came with JG.

So if you can live without trademarks but want a JG, then the Echo 1 614 is the way to go in the US.

As for my gun, it originally had the crane stock and the 10" barrel. From shooting both my M15 rifle and my C8 carbine, I knew that I preferred the feel of a full stock. And from seeing pics of the 416 with the longer barrel, I knew I wanted that too. It gives it a good visual balance between the front and rear end. I like the crane stock better with the short barrel though. I find it looks too stubby with a full stock and short barrel.

[PaCHeKo!]

Originally Posted by Dusti69

also i like the fixed stock look on the 416 better than the adjustable crane stocks. i tried searching ebay for 416's, no luck. sellers have them listed as 614's for some reason. theyre all jg's with adjustable stocks

Are you looking for a 416 with full stock en ebay? Or are you just looking for a full stock?

http://ebaybanned.com/product_info.php?products_id=70

[Drache]

Well here's version 1.1 of my H&K 416CT (Custom Tactical) project:

[Motaal]

if u are able to get the 10 round mags, it might pass off as a 417, if u want the whole experience try getting the G3 Mags ( First model of the 417 used G3 mags),

Otherwise Great rifle man, i like the grip

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by Motaal

iif u want the whole experience try getting the G3 Mags

G3 mags won't fit in an armalite.

[Motaal]

I mean if its possible to Modify the Well,

Jesus i might be Arab but im not stupid lol

[Drache]

Originally Posted by Motaal

if u are able to get the 10 round mags, it might pass off as a 417, if u want the whole experience try getting the G3 Mags ( First model of the 417 used G3 mags),

Otherwise Great rifle man, i like the grip

Actually the project still requires VN style mags, a tightbore barrel, and a silencer (which arrives next week)

[Motaal]

u might be getting real close to a 417 then, and if u do, i will crown you airsoft king..

[Drache]

Originally Posted by Motaal

u might be getting real close to a 417 then, and if u do, i will crown you airsoft king..

If I could mod the gun to accept G3 mags then Id die happy but I dont have the time nor know how to do that lol.

[Motaal]

Lol yea, but its worth looking into, not necessarily doing it, but if u talk about custom, thatll be the only one in the field

[PaCHeKo!]

Damn I thought I was the first one to release a "custom sniper" Hk416... I guess someone had the same idea. Great rifle... can't wait to see the silencer.

[Drache]

Originally Posted by PaCHeKo!

Damn I thought I was the first one to release a "custom sniper" Hk416... I guess someone had the same idea. Great rifle... can't wait to see the silencer.

Post a pic up of yours Id like to see it! My bloody dialup wont let me load the first page

[PaCHeKo!]

Not done yet. :P Sorry I used the wrong syntax.

[djtbster]

who the heck still uses dialup!!!!

[TokyoSeven]

Some folks in very rural areas of provinces still have dial up, and alot of people in the states still have dial up as well. I believe Saskatchewan is the most internet connected province per capita in all of Canada though. Even most of the middle of nowhere boonie towns I know of though have highspeed.