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Old October 2nd, 2007, 20:40   #1
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Madbull releases JP Enterprises/Viking Tactical licensed handguard kits

http://www.madbullairsoft.com/Englis...roducts_id=120

$130 US

There are 4 different barrel lengths - 24", 20", 18", and 16" inch barrels.
(Receiver, Gearbox not included.)

Features:
Aluminum molding + CNC
One top long handguard rail and 3 side rails
Patented (by JP Rifles) handguard adapter (intelligent design to attach to the upper receiver.)
JP Tactical Compensator



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Old October 2nd, 2007, 22:22   #2
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Not to thread jack (thx for the info), but doesn't Huang sell something similar for less? Also the Madbull brand... isn't known for it's quality (check past threads about them). Just the words out for everyone

About that flash hider... i'm guessing you screw it in? Damn it's sexy!
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 22:38   #3
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Huang's are Bushmaster -type free float handguards. The JP Rifles handguards are different in how they attach to the receiver (reminds me the Troy method, but this uses its own adapter).

And where did you get Madbull isn't known for its quality? I have several Madbull parts, they're amazing quality, fully licensed with unique serial numbers. Certainly better quality than most ACM parts.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 22:53   #4
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Actually, it's 3 different handguard lengths, each coming with different barrels:
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 00:25   #5
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Huang's are Bushmaster -type free float handguards. The JP Rifles handguards are different in how they attach to the receiver (reminds me the Troy method, but this uses its own adapter).

And where did you get Madbull isn't known for its quality? I have several Madbull parts, they're amazing quality, fully licensed with unique serial numbers. Certainly better quality than most ACM parts.
Seems pretty cool if they actually have a good quality product. From the reviews they get on Arnie's and on this site i wouldn't spend any money on Madbull. Maybe it's just 'certain' products that suck from them, while other's are great. Until i see a positive review from the product id never spend the money. So far people complain on their tightbores, bb's, bucking and i think hop up? They get what... one good review for five bad one's? Doesn't sound great to me :-/

So if anyone actually owns one and could give a review, i would really appreciate it since i really like the look of those handguards.

Edit: Anyone knows what a 'CQB' length handguard is? Or is their no specific length?
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 00:43   #6
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? Also the Madbull brand... isn't known for it's quality (check past threads about them). Just the words out for everyone
Ugh.. more misconceptions.

Okay. First hand knowledge.. Ready? Madbull makes some of the highest quality bits around. Look at all their silencers (or launchers... though, they're too rich for my blood). Outstanding fit/finish.

They've made some shoddy products, but so has King-Arms. And I know how much everyone on this forum loves KA.

Please, if you're going to trash a Mfg, don't look at just one, or two pieces.

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Old October 3rd, 2007, 00:56   #7
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Threads where Madbull product is being bashed/flamed:
http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=45086
http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=45010
http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=43318

I saw similar one's on Arnies and other sites i whore in. What i CAN say is that i did find positive reviews on external accessories. They apparently makes a kick ass M203 launcher (or something like that).

And KOS really... re-read what i wrote please. I'm not trashing anyone here, other people are the one's posting the negative comments/reviews about Madbull products they bought.

I wanted a tightbore, almost went with Madbull but i was told it's SHIT. Then i see those threads about people thinking of getting Madbull parts and people say they aren't good. So maybe Madbull is like CA... great externals, shitty internals.

So my statements stands: If anyone has bought the OP's parts or similar one's from Madbull, please tell us/me about it.

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Old October 3rd, 2007, 01:01   #8
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I don't expect them to be great in all areas. They've only been around for a couple of years..
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 01:28   #9
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Threads where Madbull product is being bashed/flamed:
http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=45086
http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=45010
http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=43318

I saw similar one's on Arnies and other sites i whore in. What i CAN say is that i did find positive reviews on external accessories. They apparently makes a kick ass M203 launcher (or something like that).

And KOS really... re-read what i wrote please. I'm not trashing anyone here, other people are the one's posting the negative comments/reviews about Madbull products they bought.

I wanted a tightbore, almost went with Madbull but i was told it's SHIT. Then i see those threads about people thinking of getting Madbull parts and people say they aren't good. So maybe Madbull is like CA... great externals, shitty internals.

So my statements stands: If anyone has bought the OP's parts or similar one's from Madbull, please tell us/me about it.

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Well, reading those links I can't say they're much evidence of Madbull being shit. There's one or two people who've had minor issues, some people going "OMFG SO I GUESS ALL MADBULL STUFF IS SHIT" but what do we really have? BB issues with some cheapo plastic mags... and hopup rubbers which, no great surprise, behave pretty much like any other hop up rubbers. The rest is hearsay.

I haven't tried their BBs, maybe they are crap.

I have some of their hop up rubbers and buckings... I'm curious to test the buckings, the idea is interesting because it addresses a problem I've noticed (I've yet to see how well it solves it). I also noticed their hop up rubbers are soft material, similar to, but slightly ticker/stiffer than Marui's stock ones. Dunno how well they'll work. (My favorites were the old Systema clear ones). At any rate, they're like $1.50 from Airsoftparts.ca, so they'll be whatever they'll be.

Inner barrel, got one of their Black Python Ver.2 6.03's. Haven't tried that yet either on account of my unfinished mechbox, but it looks promising (very nice finish). This too will be a test, since so far I've sworn by KM and lately Prometheus inners.

Several other parts, including a DNTC compensator which has a finish I've only seen rivaled by Guarder's P-Process finish (except Madbull's is half the price of a Guarder flash hider, and is licensed to boot), and even spots the Primary Arms logo on it like the real thing, and a Noveske KX3 (also licensed) which also has an impeccable finish.

I'll comment on the internals when I try them, but for now I'll say that external accessories are absolutely top notch (at least the Licensed stuff, and the JP Rifles handguards fall into that category).
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 01:51   #10
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I have Mad Bull, barrels, grenade launchers w/king grenade and two silencers, also using their AEG springs.

All is great quality with good fit and finish, their grenade launcher stuff has been rated best in the business, I can first hand attest to that, their silencers work, and their barrels are as good as any other top name brand barrel I have used at half the weight and half the price!!
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 16:07   #11
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This is a bit dated, but I'll throw it into this thread since it already exists...

I bought 7" JP Rifle/Viking Tactical kit (with 4 barrel lengths) from airsoftparts.ca (highly recommend) on a whim. Got bored...he was having a sale...I was bored...now Jugglez has all my money...

The fit and finish of this kit is excellent. Consistent anodizing, no blemishes, precise alignment. Beautiful, crisp trades. I have fitted the 7" kit to 3 different bodies so far (a Dboys, a CA and a G&P). The only minor, minor thing was that the gas tube was 0.5mm too high going through the "delta" ring setup and so it indexed slightly off of the gas tube hole in the body (12 oclock high). No biggie, i just filed the end of the gas tube a bit and it slid right in.

With the gas tube inserted into the body, the front end is essentially pinned/staked positively in place. On all three fittings, the top rail aligned perfectly with all of the flat top AR bodies. Very solid kit, no movement or twisting at all.

From delta ring to flashhider.
1. The "delta" ring assembly goes on like a dream and is very solid. Locks down tight and clamps the outer barrel firmly into the upper receiver. Aligning the inner locking ring and the outer ring to get the gas tube to line up might take one or two tries, but otherwise problem free.
2. The main barrel is solid. A bit lightweight but "beefy" looking.
3. The gas block screws on and has 1 cross pin. Nice tight lockup but just enough play to allow you to get everything lined up just right. A set screw locks it in place.
4. The different barrel lengths screw into the front of the gas block. There is a little o-ring that goes into the gas block before the end barrel. A set screw pins it in place.
5. The flashhider is very nicely made. There isn't a cap and spring, so I just screwed the flashhider down flush on the end barrel. Another set screw pins it in place. I then rotated the end barrel a bit to line things up perfectly (the o-ring takes up any slack and can compress a bit as needed).
6. Install the rails before screwing the handguard onto the "delta" ring. There are little floating female blocks that go inside the handguard and beefy screws are used to screw the outer rails onto the inner blocks. This setup allows you to near-infinitely position the rails (one long top, one mid-length and one short) fore and aft, or any of the slots on the handguard. Accessories fit like a charm on the rails, so no issues there.
7. The handguard tube attaches to the "delta" ring with 7 little screws. I did notice some torquing of the tube if you screw down some tight before others (i.e. better off to screw them all in lightly, then sequentially tighten them down). Very sturdy and the barrel is completely free floating.
8. I noticed that on both of my kits that the sling/bi-pod stud that comes with it, when fully/securely screwed down the stud is over rotated. I used a little rubber washer to take up the space and to give it some cushioning.

Overall...beautiful kit (in my opinion) and very well made.

I liked the 7" kit so much that I bought the 12" kit (w/ 4 barrels). The 12" kit is huge...especially with the 24" barrel and flashhider. But I'm more used to CQB guns so even a carbine seems long. Goes together just as sweet as the 7" kit.

Don't know if the 6 extra lengths of outer barrel that I have now are necessary...but it's nice to have the options....

As a note to other Madbull stuff...I installed a Madbull 1 piece M4 barrel into a build recently. The fit and finish was excellent. Same goes with a couple of their springs that I've used in recent past. So maybe just my experiences, but they've been good so far.


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Old January 3rd, 2008, 16:31   #12
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I got a 12" front kit installed as soon as it was released. The only issues I has was with the receiver that I fitted the front kit to. It is one of the best looking and best made kits I have seen for a long time. Monda and JBU have made some patriot kits of similar quality, but this one really stands out. Here is a link to my gun:

http://www.madbullairsoft.com/Englis...P-1_03_LRG.jpg

I have been through front end kits, grenades, launchers, barrels and hop-up rubbers from Mad Bull and all have been top quality compared to manufacturers like Laylax/Prometheus, Systema, Guarder, King Arms, Classic Army and the likes. The awards that Madbull have received from Airsoft International are well deserved
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 18:46   #13
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I picked up the 7in. kit too when it came out and the quality of it like everyone has stated is superb. My only gripe is that these kits don't fit on ICS upper receivers w/o some thread modification.
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 19:56   #14
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I planned on getting it but Wey Ferro asked me why I was imitating a military dude and then wanting to use a match rifle. So it's a RAS for me.

Madbull just released "new" hop-up rubbers.
One's supposed to increase FPS considerably and the other is just supposed to be more accurate...I still have to test them out but sounds decent, they definitely feel better than other rubbers I've had.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 00:47   #15
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+1 for the Mad bull JP Kits. well worth the money
I still hope Mad bull will release the Matching JP metal receiver some time soon
here is my 12" kit

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