August 12th, 2013, 18:23 | #76 | |
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In fact, if you buy anything, buy just the armature, you do not need any other parts, and if the 2.5 brush hoods are any indicator, you will have problems. I also recommend the 30% silver brushes from Systema, and unless FCC has seriously changed their construction (the pictures show their old carbon brushes), then there is no need for them. :banghead:
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August 12th, 2013, 23:06 | #78 |
The first part from ORGA doesn't have any bearing on the second part I quoted.
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August 12th, 2013, 23:12 | #79 | |
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Reborn! Systema 490A x New FCC 3.0 Motor Core - YouTube Still going strong after two games (The motor is a dead 490A motor from ORGA not the broken 7512 from the previous video) |
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August 12th, 2013, 23:21 | #80 | |
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However, the recent switch in wholesale by the playing to community to lipo has introduced a new issue, and all motors, regardless of manufacturer have been falling prey to it. I would advise you to tell FCC to stop with the metal screws, they clearly haven't listened to me one bit.
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August 12th, 2013, 23:26 | #81 | |
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LiPo usage is not the big issue if Company like CTW can have mosfet that does not fry after a 14.8V battery usage I don't see why Systema is having such an issue with theirs. Even Tony has refused to do any work on the Evolution aside from his own modified version and from what I was told he was using the older gen modified motor and boards. Last edited by wildcard; August 12th, 2013 at 23:29.. |
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August 12th, 2013, 23:30 | #82 | |
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Stones, glass houses and all that.
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August 12th, 2013, 23:34 | #83 | |
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It's almost scary when a OEM company can't keep up with their competitors |
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August 12th, 2013, 23:34 | #84 | |
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I will not go into it any further with you, it is really a waste of my time. And Tony does work on Evolution, he is working on 6-7 for me right now, if he isn't already finished.
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August 12th, 2013, 23:37 | #85 | |
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My warranty from FCC has not exactly been stellar. Chris has been great to keep me going, but I am still down a motor, for now.
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August 12th, 2013, 23:43 | #86 | |
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August 12th, 2013, 23:49 | #87 |
I snooped around with the Chris out your way, and the new motors weren't out then.
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August 13th, 2013, 10:38 | #89 |
I don't understand what the deal with parts from Japan is. I have had zero issue in getting parts direct from the factory (and I am not a wholesaler, dealer, retailer, distributor or have any relationship with systema).
I've put in three part orders in the past 5 months, and had delivery within 2-3 weeks. I don't understand what the hoopla is with getting support from the factory that people are talking about. I have a gripe with the 2.5 motor. It gets very hot under 9.6v NiCD and struggles to pull a stock systema blue cylinder when the battery is at 75% of charge. Same battery at 75% charge in a stock 490 cycles the gun cleaner and it doesn't heat up the motor. At about 50% charge 9.6NiCD the FCC 2.5 cannot cycle the M110 at all, however a 490 can continue to cycle the gun for another 200-300 rounds. Observed with two different 08 factory guns now, with factory electronics with three different FCC 2.5 motors. This tells me wither the 2.5 pinion gear is not meshing properly with the bevel gear ; or something is terribly wrong with the motor. |
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August 13th, 2013, 11:28 | #90 |
Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture!
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I have not had any specific issues with my FCC 2.5 motor as of yet, but I'll be monitoring it closely next year.
But as Brad said, for the love of god change those brush hood screws to plastic!!! And you don't have to go purely on Brad's word for that one. Systema and some others have tried using metal screws on AEG motor before, and those are the motors that give us the most problems. Also, I don't like the new motors construction, I don't trust that in the slightest. All screws holding a motor together need to be mounted axially. It's been that way for decades, and there's a good damn reason for it. I understand and respect that FCC is trying to re-invent the wheel here, but some things are just terrible ideas and that right there is one of them. Are the threads on the housing roll formed or cut? I guarantee those threads aren't tight tolerance and those are just regular socket head screws. There's natural slack in all threads to begin with, and if by some chance someone under torques or goes over yield strength on a screw, that motors gonna come loose and burn out your bearings really fast, and it doesn't take much misalignment to kill a bearing at 25000rpm |