The Force Recon & MARSOC Thread

[bakercompany]

Originally Posted by oniwagamaru

im guessing those are from balikatan exercises 2007 and 2009?

Yep...Balikatan and a few from Ex Talisman Sabre '07. There's some good photos from Talisman Sabre '09 here, lots of ADF guys mixed in with USMC:

http://www.defence.gov.au/opex/exerc...09/gallery.htm

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/1lZzZ...se/D_djTP4llBP

[Drake]

Originally Posted by -Skeletor-

I think it's just the angle that makes it look weird. I'm pretty sure the ACOG would clear the PEQ2

Confirmed, I just tried it for fun. ACOG on a [repro] LaRue RCO mount (roughly same clearance as stock mount -- and actually since that's a Marine in the pic, he may be using the RCO mount, too) with a VFC AN/PEQ (dimensionally almost identical to the real one).

The PEQ obstructs the ACOG slightly but you can't see it when viewing through the scope.

Insight and VFC AN/PEQ2s side-by-side




/threadjack

[Vince]

Well since this be MFR kit thread here's my crap

1st line:

War belt in CB (made from the belt part of an issue FLC)
IFAK
2x FSBE2 frag pouch


2nd line:

TAG RRV (yeah I know Eagle is what I should have but hey, got this one when OST had it's TAG gear sale and got a sweet deal)
1x FSBE2 med pouch
2x FSBE2 2x2 Mag pouch
1x EI MBITR pouch
1x FSBE2 frag pouch
1x random strobe pouch
1x FSBE2 Admin panel w/ torch holder

Armor:

PACA low vis
MSA MICH TC2000 w/ Norotos mount<

Uniforms: (not pictured)

Tan flight suit
FROG
regular dessie
temp. marpat

I'm still missing my issue CSM drop pouch wich should arrive this week.

As for not having a MEU SOC... well I don't like GBB much. I'm also planning on replacing the PACA soon for a light tan one.

So well yeah here's the pic

[Conker]

Thanks Vince, your posts are always a good source of information & inspiration!

Too bad I'm too short to wear a battle belt comfortably with any vest, rig or amor (tried it with my CIRAS and my PACA+RRV, and both setups were pushed-up by the belt :/)

I'm looking to complete my setups with an FLC, but I'm debating on wheter going the CB or OD route? I've understood that OD were previously issued, but not anymore and that it's now the CB ones. Is that correct?

And what do you think would be a fair price for an unissued CB FLC, and an issued OD FLC?

[Vince]

OD were never issued.

FR used OD rigs in the past but no FLC (they used the older 2 buckles WL ones).

I suggest CB as you can use it for a grunt impression (versatility FTW)

I've updated my setup since the pic was taken. Moved one of my 2x2 mag pouch to the war belt, put an ACOG pouch on the RRV. Took off one of the frag pouches from my belt as well.

Next up sould be getting a spine pack for the RRV, or back plate. Not quite sure yet.

[Conker]

By spine pack, are you reffering to the MAP?

As for the OD FLC, I was thinking of these

But actually they seem to have buckles, so that's not an FLC... what would it be actually?

But yeah, having a CB one so I can also use if for a grunt impression makes sense.

[Vince]

The FLC in the pics are WL. Only the lower belt part was WL.

As for the Spine Pack it's indeed same shape as a MAP but it's made to be mounted on an RRV without having a back plate assembly

[Conker]

Thanks for these precisions.

Last question for now, which units do use the FLC?

This info should help me find more pics of them in greenside environnement. Most pics I've found are from exercise Talisman Saber (2007) with the 31st MEU.

[hondatech]

Regarding woodland Marpat boonies, anyone know where I can get a shorter brimmed one? I've got the issue one, and the 3" brim is HUGE. All the ones I've found online seem to have the same wide-assed brim. I'm looking for something more along the lines of a 2" brimmed one. Does such a thing exist? Thanks!

[Vince]

[Vince]

Originally Posted by Shrapnel[Op-For]

issue eagle pouches on a ebaybanned rrv??

TAG Molle chestrig until I can find an MBSS or RRV (issue of cours). And just to be picky half of these are Allied/TRC

Here's an updated configuration. Received some '04 FSBE mag pouches. Notice the old vs new FSBE CB (by new I mean new tone, only the ACOG pouch is badly faded)



Now to find an FSBE leg panel...

[Vince]

Some more EB came my way

[Brakoo]

Here is my FR loadout for now :









EI Land Ciras :
AI FSBE admin with flashlight
EI Triple mag shingle
EI FSBE grenade pouch
EI .45 FB pouch x 2
EI FSBE M4 mag pouch x 3
EI Large GP pouch
EI MBITR pouch
EI hydration carrier
CSM NAC sling

EI FSBE War belt :
AI FSBE leg panel with
EI FSBE grenade pouch
EI .45 FB pouch x 2
EI FSBE M4 mag pouch x 2
CSM dump pouch
Gemtech lanyard
Safariland 6004 with MEU

[Conker]

I've been watching the whole series, interesting stuff on the training (and obviously you get to see some gear )

5 episodes, here's the first:

YouTube- National Geographic - Force Recon (Part 1)

[Conker]

My CIRAS... It's a WIP, so I am VERY open to suggestions and comments, especially for the 1st line as I'm not very familiar.

If there's no brand named, it's either I don't know or I'm ashamed of owning it, but that'll have to do for now.

Colors are a bit off, but there IS a colour difference between Flyye, Eagle, AITES,... Everything is each company's Coyote Brown (unless noted).

http://i.foxleader.net/as/FR-WIP/IMG_6196.JPG
Without flash: http://i.foxleader.net/as/FR-WIP/IMG_6194.JPG

KITLIST

1st line:
- Flyye War Belt
- IR, green and red Cyalumes
- Tan flight gloves
- Flyye dump pouch
- Flyye knife pouch (used handheld light)
- LBT pistol retention lanyard (black)
- repro 6004 (black, painted FDE) with MEU and multitool pouch (black, sprayed tan)
- EI signle frag pouch
- Flyye single frag pouch

2nd line:
- Land CIRAS
- 2x Double M4 mag pouch
- 2x EI .45 pistol mag pouch
- "MAP kindof"
- Custom reflective ID patch (viz and IR)
- 2x AITES flashbang pouch
- 5x Flex-Cuffs
- PRC148 pouch (an MBITR shell is on the way for my Puxing with a whip antenna)
- Flyye medic pouch (I was thinking of writing blood type + NKDA with a medic cross with a Sharpie on it?)
- C-A-T
- Admin pouch
- Custom reflective US flag (viz and IR)
- 2x Sharpies
- Element Peltor PTT with Comtac II
- Duct tape

NOTES:
-I took the liberty to use a Magpul MS2, since the sling design is great and I believe sling is more of a personal choice... right?
-I plan to get a TEA PTT instead of the Peltor.
-Knife pouch (used for the flashlight) will soon be changed for a CSM Gear pouch
-Not too sure for the grenade pouches, but I did see it on a few pics...