FCC 2013 new release

[mcguyver]

Originally Posted by redneck12

I was looking at their rails and a few other bits and bobs, how are they quality wise.

I can count on one hand how many of their products are OK, and still have some fingers left.

Their selector rack and FET board seem to be OK, everything else is a crap shoot.

[ThunderCactus]

I've had good luck with their short mosfet, haven't heard anything really bad about their ECU either

[mcguyver]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

I've had good luck with their short mosfet, haven't heard anything really bad about their ECU either

About 1/3 for me are duds. Full auto in all modes, or no control of the FETs, and they trigger it to do wierd things. One poor guy is on his third board.

[MMatersk]

Any pro FCC guys want to chime in on this? I'd like to hear what they have to say. I was actually blown away when I got to try a FCC product last year at TAC was very close of purchasing a gun from them. Any new development? I'm kind of glad I didn't buy into the hype after reading everything.

[ThunderCactus]

So far the guys that stand behind FCC 100% have nothing more to offer than hearsay that they in fact own a fully functional FTW
"why tear apart a good gun?" is their defense, which makes sense. But considering the amount of evidence against FCC, a well documented take down of a good FTW would be the only thing we'd accept as proof.

I'd LOVE to have someone with a well built FTW post up a well documented take down showing some evidence that FCC is capable of making a proper TW. Nobody has stepped up to the plate yet, and honestly given the number of poorly built guns, I personally still wouldn't chance buying one.

[Off_kilter]

Yeah this is sad...I had high hopes for a AK PTW when i saw those teaser shots.

[redneck12]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

So far the guys that stand behind FCC 100% have nothing more to offer than hearsay that they in fact own a fully functional FTW
"why tear apart a good gun?" is their defense, which makes sense. But considering the amount of evidence against FCC, a well documented take down of a good FTW would be the only thing we'd accept as proof.

I'd LOVE to have someone with a well built FTW post up a well documented take down showing some evidence that FCC is capable of making a proper TW. Nobody has stepped up to the plate yet, and honestly given the number of poorly built guns, I personally still wouldn't chance buying one.

As far as I have seen the only ones pro FTW are the guys that invested in the company and distributors.

[ThunderCactus]

I'd stick that quote in my sig if I wasn't so sure it would ruffle someone's feathers lol

[redneck12]

Just from observation even guys on Youtube that were showing off their FCC's have stopped posting beyond the build or initial purchase. And same with ASC certain supporters of FCC have gone quiet. Just doesn't seem like FCC is actually listening and taking the feed back in and implementing changes. Its a pitty cuz they have some really nice looking builds and for the pennies you guys fork out for them you expect results worthy of the cost.

[Ricochet]

Luckily, there's still Systema. Not only better, but cheaper. Go figure.

[SuperHog]

Like to report my A&K PTW is working flawless with zero issues. I would have thought the gear box, cylinder or motor would have died by now, but still humming along.

At $420, you can't beat that.

[ThunderCactus]

If you compare them to AEG's which are on the same level, I'd rather run a CTW or A&K ptw, simply due to the fact they're based on a superior platform, and they still retain the modularity of the ptw for ease of maintenance and troubleshooting

[Nova316]

A&K is surprisingly an good platform, only the electronics are a little weak.
If/when they burn out replace them with systema and you are good to go for quite a while. I had a buddy who got into the sport and went A&K over FCC/Systema and I replaced his boards when they failed with old 2007 systema boards I had laying around. Its been flawless since

[SuperHog]

I use to own a CTW but sold it. The fit and finish and also A&K PTW compatibility to a Systema is much better.

[Azathoth]

Originally Posted by redneck12

I was looking at their rails and a few other bits and bobs, how are they quality wise.

They look nice but only the prototypes and the ones that went to dealer/distributors are of the high quality CNC product. At the price you are being charged you are better of buying a real version for an extra $100 dollars.

See the quote below:

Originally Posted by redneck12

As far as I have seen the only ones pro FTW are the guys that invested in the company and distributors.

Originally Posted by MMatersk

Any pro FCC guys want to chime in on this? I'd like to hear what they have to say. I was actually blown away when I got to try a FCC product last year at TAC was very close of purchasing a gun from them. Any new development? I'm kind of glad I didn't buy into the hype after reading everything.

Only the guns that I have seen in the hands of the FCC stakeholders in Hong Kong and in the dealers in Canada have been of high quality. IE Full billet CNC from tool quality steel or aluminum. The other complete guns that are being sold are put together and built to a far far far lower standard, die cast, cnc finish 'metal' that is hardened (gears), or die cast cnc finish for the externals.

I agree with Brad, the only product that I have seen from FCC that is good to go IMO is the selector rack.