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Old July 4th, 2019, 14:18   #1
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New BB Bastard is Trash

Alright guys, its a shame to see BB Bastard go down to this level but its gotten to a point where they are continueing to blatantly lie to customers. Here's the backstory: BB Bastard ceased business operations a few years ago, 2015 or 2016 I believe. Last year at some point they resumed selling BBs but under new management.

New BB Bastard consistently maintained that their product is the exact same as old BB Bastard. I have brought up my concerns in the past directly to BB Bastard, giving them empirical data to prove that the new BB Bastard ammo is a shitty, bottom of the barrel product being sold at a premium price. They said they'd look into it, but they haven't. They are continueing to tell their customers that their BBs are the same high quality product that was sold years ago.

So here's what I did, I obtained a new bag of BB Bastard .3g ammo, and I have a personal stash of 10-20k old BB Bastards from a big purchase I made a few years ago of 100k rounds of BB Bastard .3g that was sold to a training company under the name "BOLO Gear" because BB Bastard was too "unprofessional". The new batch was purchased at the BB Bastard vendor table at Force Recon's Nightfall 8 in early June, where I sent one of my friends to buy the bag and specifically ask if they were the same as the old BB Bastards, to which they said they were.

I then took these BBs to a friend who's family runs a manufacturing business and has tools much more accurate than I own. He took these measurements using a Mitutoyo micrometer accurate to +- 0.001mm.

Here are the results (50 BB sample size, measured in mm):



Old BB Bastard .3

Minimum Deviation: 0.001
Maximum Deviation: 0.011
Average Deviation: 0.004
Standard Deviation: 0.002152023623

New BB Bastard .3

Minimum Deviation: 0.007
Maximum Deviation: 0.048
Average Deviation: 0.025
Standard Deviation: 0.01019282184

Yeah. The new BB Bastard is significantly worse. The average deviation is more than 3x that of the old BB Bastard, with the maximum deviation being more than 4x that of the old BB Bastard. The standard deviation is almost 5x higher.

Now lets put this in perspective. We tested a few different brands of BBs, with the expectation that Valken would be the worst we would measure. The actual worst we measured aside from BB Bastard was Goldenball.

Goldenball .25
Minimum Deviation: 0.005
Maximum Deviation: 0.043
Average Deviation: 0.018
Standard Deviation: 0.008389429984

Yeah, Goldenball is horrific. We thought it wouldn't get any shittier than Goldenball, but BB Bastard 1 upped them, and not in a good way.

To BB Bastard, this is ugly. You are blatantly lying to customers and selling them garbage. Get your shit together. If you want to sell a shitty product, that's fine, sell a shitty product but be honest about it. Don't go out there lying to your customers that its the same premium product as in the past. The ball is in your court for a response.

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