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LUTNIT · December 11th, 2008, 10:37

Low Grade
Aftermath (non-standard hopup units, rubbers, and barrels but easy swap)
CYMA (have been getting better, full metal usually now, I'd almost put them in Mid Grade)
Cybergun (they are an importer, not a manufacturer, Cybergun branded guns are usually Well)
Well (not sure I would even rank them this high, they are bottom of the Low Grade barrel at the very least)
JG (known to be solid performers but chance of getting a lemon and all plastic)
Echo1 (rebranded JG's, sometimes with cheap potmetal bodies added)
AGM (at least their M14's, other than hopup/barrel its a TM clone)

Mid Grade
G&G (full metal but known for shoddy internals)
STAR (known for motor problems and pistons stripping)
TM
KWA (verdict is still out for long term reliability, might be high grade)
King Arms (again, verdict still out)
ICS (come stock with mechbox busting aluminum pistons, slightly non-standard gears but can be replaced with standard ones if you swap the bushings)

High Grade
CA (full metal full goodness)
G&P (godly)

My opinions. I wouldn't put TM in high grade; I mean they are top quality for reliability and lasting forever out of the box (have heard stories of stock TM guns going 200K+ rnds without a problem) but they just need so much work to get them to a serious level. It does kinda pain me to put ICS in Mid Grade because I swear by them and love them, but out of the box performance could be better. With a little work ICS guns can be amazing though, definitely top end.

December 11th, 2008, 10:37	#25
LUTNIT Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ottawa	Low Grade Aftermath (non-standard hopup units, rubbers, and barrels but easy swap) CYMA (have been getting better, full metal usually now, I'd almost put them in Mid Grade) Cybergun (they are an importer, not a manufacturer, Cybergun branded guns are usually Well) Well (not sure I would even rank them this high, they are bottom of the Low Grade barrel at the very least) JG (known to be solid performers but chance of getting a lemon and all plastic) Echo1 (rebranded JG's, sometimes with cheap potmetal bodies added) AGM (at least their M14's, other than hopup/barrel its a TM clone) Mid Grade G&G (full metal but known for shoddy internals) STAR (known for motor problems and pistons stripping) TM KWA (verdict is still out for long term reliability, might be high grade) King Arms (again, verdict still out) ICS (come stock with mechbox busting aluminum pistons, slightly non-standard gears but can be replaced with standard ones if you swap the bushings) High Grade CA (full metal full goodness) G&P (godly) My opinions. I wouldn't put TM in high grade; I mean they are top quality for reliability and lasting forever out of the box (have heard stories of stock TM guns going 200K+ rnds without a problem) but they just need so much work to get them to a serious level. It does kinda pain me to put ICS in Mid Grade because I swear by them and love them, but out of the box performance could be better. With a little work ICS guns can be amazing though, definitely top end. Last edited by LUTNIT; December 11th, 2008 at 10:45..