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Karma_ July 16th, 2012 22:10

Systema to Release Mad Max Version PTW
 
Personally I don't see the point. I wish they would focus on making new guns instead of making another one even more pointless than the Supermax.

Read on

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?vnhq8mavdnz9vch

Death March July 19th, 2012 12:02

There's some different stuff on this one,I would like to see more on the motor as it's STILL an on going issue.

wildcard July 19th, 2012 15:12

I rather purchase more FCC full gun than another stock Systema PTW, it seem that the newer the stuff that they come out with the more issue. really 600fps, 1400rpm? what's the use? why can't they mak etheir stuff more reliable? I'll pay for that.

Krookedatmosphere July 20th, 2012 09:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildcard (Post 1680758)
I rather purchase more FCC full gun than another stock Systema PTW, it seem that the newer the stuff that they come out with the more issue. really 600fps, 1400rpm? what's the use? why can't they mak etheir stuff more reliable? I'll pay for that.

I agree FCC parts and Full builds well worth the money

kullwarrior July 23rd, 2012 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karma_ (Post 1679576)
Personally I don't see the point. I wish they would focus on making new guns instead of making another one even more pointless than the Supermax.

QFT

In innovation side it doesn't take much work to make a higher fps gun.

MadMorbius July 23rd, 2012 20:53

The engrish is fucking epic tho.

disasterarea July 24th, 2012 00:40

I interpreted the title of this thread completely wrong. I had visions of a post-apocalyptic M4 when I clicked that link.

Ricochet July 24th, 2012 18:47

Must be strictly marketed towards training.

Maybe if Systema would quit changing their minds on what's next. I'm sure it'll be whatever the US military moves to after the M series rifle. They did poke the idea of a SCAR, or the Masada. I do however remember a release they had years ago, where they claimed that they did not support the use of their training platforms as Airsoft guns. So, as much as a new gun would be awesome, I don't think they are thinking of us whilst making those decisions.

Karma_ July 24th, 2012 22:03

They did have a little survey on their facebook page about what they should make next. Systema would be foolish to ignore their airsoft base. I would think they have now realized the market share they get from airsofters.

Kozzie July 25th, 2012 00:21

I'd pay the hefty price tag on a Systema Ak

wildcard July 29th, 2012 10:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kozzie (Post 1682841)
I'd pay the hefty price tag on a Systema Ak

or the long rumored LMG (1996)

Ricochet August 23rd, 2012 12:03

For those that are curious about the differences, here is a synopsis. I will tell you however that the FPS rating "must" be wrong, as a M170 spring will put out more than 460 FPS.


Latest Systema PTW- The shocking Madmax.with extremely high muzzle velocity and rate of fire! 460++ FPS.

This time Systema is releasing into the market a product that was believed to be the domain of the physically impossible, let us introduce you the "MAD MAX".

Precision shooting requires a gentle parabolic orbit trajectory, a longer flight distance is achieved when the HOP combines with Power.

High power proves ones advancement in technology. Let us introduce the parts in the "Madmax'
-MAD MAX Exclusive M170 Spring
-MAD MAX Exclusive O-Ring for Stainless Cylinder
-MAD MAX Exclusive Cylinder Grease for bettering air seal and heat proof
-MAD MAX Exclusive Gear Box ・Planetary Gear box with "sun gear"
-MAD MAX Exclusive 7512 Type Motor
(as well as the 7512 Type Motor exclusive Grip)
-Mad Max Exclusive Lithium Polymer 14.8V / 1400mAh 25C lipo
The material for the spring used in our P.T.W. which is the SAE9254 was specifically developed for the valve spring, and is the most reliable material for the use of AEG For our MAD MAX, we conditioned the surface of the spring with our double shot-peening process to ensure an even stronger wear resistant product.

Lubrication in the Cylinder is an important problem in order to maximize muzzle velocity. Generally, Fluorine based grease is used, however there are various things that are unknown regarding this product. Systema sells the Cylinder grease to the general public, they formulated the grease with a little higher viscosity to be used in various types of cylinders. However, for the MAD MAX series Systema created special low viscosity grease exclusively for this product. There may be customers who think that ?all grease is the same?, however that is not the case.

MAD MAX Exclusive Gear Box
Contrary to the compact appearance, the extremely durable and high performance of the P.T.W. Planetary Gear Box has been re tuned for the MAD MAX. The spring used in the MAD MAX is an unprecedented in terms of load.
Mad Max Exclusive Lithium Polymer 14.8V / 1400mAh 25C Battery The Mad Max exclusive 7512 type motor is superior in startup torque, however is slightly lacking in the number of revolutions in comparison to the 7511 type motor.

Systema developed a new battery that dramatically increases the voltage thus supplementing the number of revolutions.

This battery will be able to comfortably go through one full magazine with Full Auto firing without any worries.

There are many users already familiar with the benefits of using LiPo batteries; such as it light weight, non-self discharging properties, no memory effects, usability in recommended chargers, and so on. The feeling of shooting using this battery will leave you shocked and speechless.

The trigger response to the P.T.W. in Semi-Auto mode already has a very crisp reaction speed; however in regards to the MAD MAX, Systema highly recommend experiencing the sensation of firing in burst patterns in Full Auto mode.

During the test Systema found that; with a fully charged battery 400 rounds of intermittent firing will produce no lag.

With the MAD MAX surpassing the SUPER MAX?s (24 rounds per second) overall speed using the M170 spring, it truly deserves the name "MAD"

Note: The fps quoted is for reference only, actual results might vary according to individual products.

ThunderCactus August 23rd, 2012 13:15

I'm really surprised their MP5 didn't take off, as it's a pretty popular first world law enforcement weapon.
But then, look at the price of 9mm with a government agency discount.... You can buy a lot of ammo for the cost of a TW5

The next best option might be the UMP, but even then police agencies typically only buy the UMP in .45 to supplement the MP5....

You could buy an arsenal of AK's and a lifetime supply of ammo for the cost of an AK PTW, and if you're using an AK, chances are it would be beneficial to the rest of the world if you did not receive any training....

The HK416 trains like an M4
The 468 and IAR (colt or the 416 doesn't matter) both train like M4s
Maybe the G36 actually, it's current service, widespread use, used by police in various countries, very popular.

I'd say it's either the G36 or they get into making GBB pistols lol

Ricochet August 23rd, 2012 17:09

If you understand their M/O, you'd know they'll never make an AK, unless the US, Canada, and/or Britain adopted it as primary weapon. That however; will never happen just on the fact it's a Russian weapon. That and although it gas it's charms, it's really a fairly useless gun. It really is only popular for it's pop culture, and in third world countries because they are cheap. A few countries have designed some decent variants out of it though; such as the Israelis.

The most likely gun you'll see from Systema is the ACR Masada. That is if it's "issues" get worked out, and it's adopted as a replacement for the M series. They had talked for years about making a Scar until the US dropped it. That's why I think they've waited do long to make another weapon. They seem to be interested in whatever the US army is using. So, some realistic possibilities would be; the ACR Masada, the Scar H/L, and the XM-8. You have to remember that they don't go out of their way to go after airsoft markets.

etundidor June 23rd, 2013 10:39

SYSTEMA PTW M4A1 Upgrade KIT
 
Hello guys,

I'm a newbie here and I want to get some advice from you more experienced guys...

I have a SYSTEMA PTW M4A1 2008 version, the Smart Electrical Control Unit is damaged as far as I can see and I want you to tell me if you know something about it two things:

- Where I can get in general this replacement (Online) part and the rest of replacement parts for this model in order make an overhauling of it.

- Can I make an upgrade of this model based on the assumption of that framework it's compatible with the the new ones models as PTS Max, and MAD MAX? Which parts I must replace for achieve that?

Thanks in advance for your support guys.

Take care

Ernest

wildcard June 24th, 2013 23:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by etundidor (Post 1809277)
Hello guys,

I'm a newbie here and I want to get some advice from you more experienced guys...

I have a SYSTEMA PTW M4A1 2008 version, the Smart Electrical Control Unit is damaged as far as I can see and I want you to tell me if you know something about it two things:

- Where I can get in general this replacement (Online) part and the rest of replacement parts for this model in order make an overhauling of it.

- Can I make an upgrade of this model based on the assumption of that framework it's compatible with the the new ones models as PTS Max, and MAD MAX? Which parts I must replace for achieve that?

Thanks in advance for your support guys.

Take care

Ernest

You can get Systema replacement parts either from redwolf (if they have it in stock) or direct from Z-shot

buttonsHT June 25th, 2013 01:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by disasterarea (Post 1682466)
I interpreted the title of this thread completely wrong. I had visions of a post-apocalyptic M4 when I clicked that link.

THIS!.. haha I'm a huge Mad Max fan and got excited until I opened the thread.

Enjoi June 28th, 2013 11:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by buttonsHT (Post 1809848)
THIS!.. haha I'm a huge Mad Max fan and got excited until I opened the thread.

Same here...Kind of a let down.


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