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JadedKommando September 24th, 2013 13:15

Tornado Grenade by Airsoft Inovations - Google search Pic's included
 
Propane powered. Can be configured for HFC134a too, Completely re-useable. Just reload bbs and gas, Blasts over 200 plastic 6mm pellets in a full 3D scatter. Not a shotgun blast or a disc distribution, Available in Four colours: Tactical black, High Visibility Yellow, UN Blue, Flat Dark Earth.
http://dragonimpact.com/biz/images/ai-tornado-timer.jpghttp://img01.militaryblog.jp/usr/ech...ornado-01.jpeg
http://everything-airsoft.com/blog/w...ornado-6-L.jpg

here's the link; http://www.airsoft-innovations.com/p...-timer-grenade

This is a good, reliable product by Airsoft Inovations. The cost in my opinion, is quite steep. I understand your paying for the technology, but to charge that much money I find is not acceptable.

Price: $100.00

Pros: Reliable Technology, the design is very effective at hittting your taget with BB's. Fit's almost any grenade style pouch, Different colors, Comes with great maintence kits, and some nice options to enhance the use of your grenades.

Cons: Price, I had 2 of the threaded caps located on the bottom of the grenade break on me during the same game day (the bunker in NS).

Recommended? Yes

The Timer Tornado by AI is truly some great tech.
You can choose between 1.5 or 3 seconds by just placing the greande pin into a different hole.
The Grenade does exactly what AI claims on their site, just be sure to clean and maintain your grenades and they will work when you need them too.
Using a grenade that spits out 200 BB's, 360 degree's to strike it's intended receipient(s) takes away all the questions that may previously been an issue when using grenades in Airsoft games. Having grenades as an option to uproot opponents who are bunkered in key terrain opens gameplay and helps to reduce stalemates that sometimes occur in objective type scenarios.

Conclusion: In the end, the Tornado grenade by AI is a great product for any Airsofter, just as long as your wallet can take the hit of buying one, or in my case buying three.

manchovie September 24th, 2013 14:05

It's Airsoft Innovations, bud! Says so right on the package. Price is what you pay for Canadian-made goodness.

Danke September 24th, 2013 14:15

I suspect the price does really equal what you get.

If they were that easy to make we'd have seen more Chinese clones flooding the market by now.

SuperHog September 24th, 2013 14:24

Is the market for grenades that big. I don't use them, neither my friends.

To play airsoft you need a gun, bbs, loadout. Grenades are luxury options.

Drakker September 24th, 2013 14:31

Buy them around xmas from Canadian stores, they are often cheaper, or bundled with other cool stuff like propane adapters and AI gas cans.

BloodSport September 24th, 2013 15:07

Poor review.

Get the company name correct, especially since you stole photos off their own site......

AI Grenades are the best on the market. 100% re usable.

Buy a disposable grenade at $15/grenade, 1 time use $15 gone.

Original complaint of the price not being reasonable is now erased.

Sequential September 24th, 2013 15:34

Terrible review.

Sounds like a bad plagiarized essay from high school. If you are going to write a review, take your own pictures and don't state the obvious.

Zack The Ripper September 24th, 2013 16:05

Considering the multitude of reviews of the AI Tornadoes online I don't think it was necessary to go to the product page on airsoftparts.com as well as several others to copy and paste photos and tid bits about what they do.

If this thread was intended as a troll, you have won.

Sequential September 24th, 2013 16:07

ban or warning for JadedKommando?

DaRkCoMmAnDo September 24th, 2013 17:23

Also, what attachment parts broke... I've used my with a spoon kit for awhile, lots of tosses there. No breakages. Where did you get that info?

Janus September 24th, 2013 18:27

$100 for a totally reuseable airsoft grenade is too much? You need a new hobby, little buddy.

FirestormX September 24th, 2013 18:50

I don't think that "the number of uses" is the correct way to go about defending a price point.
With that argument, I could justify selling my "most realistic [stock] glock ever" for $800, because you can fire a higher number of rounds before failure, than you could with a plastic springer.

What you're paying for is quality, and really, a monopoly of the grenade market.
I would agree that from the little that I know, $100 is a pretty high price point for the actual object that you get.
Same with $25 for a plastic propane adapter.

But eh, it's made in Canada (I think it still is, anyway), and they pass those costs on to you. :P

Danke September 24th, 2013 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janus (Post 1835953)
$100 for a totally reuseable airsoft grenade is too much? You need a new hobby, little buddy.

But after I spend $100 I'm set right? I mean like I won't need to spend more on something else will I?

Rusty Lugnuts September 24th, 2013 20:25

Are they still the same or are there version 2's or anything?

JadedKommando September 24th, 2013 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by BloodSport (Post 1835894)
Poor review.

Get the company name correct, especially since you stole photos off their own site......

AI Grenades are the best on the market. 100% re usable.

Buy a disposable grenade at $15/grenade, 1 time use $15 gone.

Original complaint of the price not being reasonable is now erased.

Sorry how did I type their name wrong? I can use their photo's under the fair use law, as I am not profiting from this review.

All I was saying is they could sell their Canadian made product for much less so more people can afford their product

JadedKommando September 24th, 2013 22:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zack The Ripper (Post 1835913)
Considering the multitude of reviews of the AI Tornadoes online I don't think it was necessary to go to the product page on airsoftparts.com as well as several others to copy and paste photos and tid bits about what they do.

If this thread was intended as a troll, you have won.

I believe it's informative enough for someone who hasn't seen or heard of Tornado grenades yet, and not providing a link to their website was a mere oversight. I love my AI Tornado's, and try to promote their use when ever possible (hence why I wrote the review in the first place). Maybe you could show me your own written review's that are far superior to my mine.

It sounds to me like it is you who is trolling

JadedKommando September 24th, 2013 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaRkCoMmAnDo (Post 1835940)
Also, what attachment parts broke... I've used my with a spoon kit for awhile, lots of tosses there. No breakages. Where did you get that info?

The black cover on the bottom of the grenade. I used them indoor's and 2 of those covers broke at the threading. I did have spares from the maintenace kit I bought

Manvil September 24th, 2013 22:36

You should contact their support through email if you have any problems, their customer service is some of the best i've encountered.

Also, I haven't personally found any airsoft grenade that has the bb capacity or coverage that it offers. If you want to compare it to a sound emitting grenade their dd kit does a bang up job. (pun intended).

JadedKommando September 24th, 2013 22:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manvil (Post 1836050)
You should contact their support through email if you have any problems, their customer service is some of the best i've encountered.

Also, I haven't personally found any airsoft grenade that has the bb capacity or coverage that it offers. If you want to compare it to a sound emitting grenade their dd kit does a bang up job. (pun intended).

TY, good to know they have bang on customer service.
I have their "thunder b" style kit, it's kind of a pain to reload. But it nulls the need to carry sound bangers and grenades.

Zack The Ripper September 24th, 2013 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by JadedKommando (Post 1836044)
I believe it's informative enough for someone who hasn't seen or heard of Tornado grenades yet, and not providing a link to their website was a mere oversight. I love my AI Tornado's, and try to promote their use when ever possible (hence why I wrote the review in the first place). Maybe you could show me your own written review's that are far superior to my mine.

It sounds to me like it is you who is trolling

I have several reviews on YouTube actually, go find them.

Hmm. Ooookay.

Borealis September 24th, 2013 23:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by JadedKommando (Post 1836058)
TY, good to know they have bang on customer service.
I have their "thunder b" style kit, it's kind of a pain to reload. But it nulls the need to carry sound bangers and grenades.

No they have exceptional service; the internal piston of one my timer grenade broke after I used it last year at the terminator game, I emailed them to purchase the part. They said no need and 2 days later I had TWO pistons and a maintenance kit delivered to me by UPS. Awesome company. I bought 2 other AI timer grenades after that.

Aj619 September 24th, 2013 23:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borealis (Post 1836069)
No they have exceptional service; the internal piston of one my timer grenade broke after I used it last year at the terminator game, I emailed them to purchase the part. They said no need and 2 days later I had TWO pistons and a maintenance kit delivered to me by UPS. Awesome company. I bought 2 other AI timer grenades after that.

Now that damn good costmer support

Nice to hear for if I ever buy one

BloodSport September 25th, 2013 00:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by JadedKommando (Post 1836042)
Sorry how did I type their name wrong? I can use their photo's under the fair use law, as I am not profiting from this review.

All I was saying is they could sell their Canadian made product for much less so more people can afford their product

They are not Airsoft Industries, they are Airsoft Innovations

Most people when they do a review take their own photos to show what they like and do not like, they do not recycle company photographs that everyone has already seen.

There is many reviews out there on the Tornado's including ones showing them being run over by vehicles and still usable afterwards.

Typically if something breaks on them its from misuse or not following the instructions on them properly.

$100 for a re usable, hard to break, easy/cheap to fix, easy/cheap to maintain product is actually a very very reasonable price. Especially for a home grown, designed and built item. Considering these are selling world wide for the same price speaks for itself. The price is right.

DustMagnet September 25th, 2013 01:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by JadedKommando (Post 1836042)
All I was saying is they could sell their Canadian made product for much less so more people can afford their product

I never took Econ 101, but I'm sure this is covered somewhere...

ILLusion September 25th, 2013 01:47

Sure, there are cheaper versions available out there... they're knock off clones made by Chinese companies, but they weren't able to clone the patented timer mechanism (not just because the patent was stopping them, but because they couldn't figure out the ingenious design), and so you would get detonations that would occur the moment you let go of the grenade, or could take 30 seconds... or would just plain NEVER detonate. They are too unpredictable.

But, as the OP stated, more people can afford them... so then why don't people buy them? Because they're crap!

You get what you pay for, and apparently, people are willing to shell out $100 a pop for these bad boys...

Danke September 25th, 2013 02:04

This is Madness

This is Airsoft!

JadedKommando September 25th, 2013 06:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by BloodSport (Post 1836075)
They are not Airsoft Industries, they are Airsoft Innovations

I am embarrassed that I wrote Airsoft Industries and not Innovations. Thanks for the correction.

Jack the Ripper, what is your channel name on you tube so I can watch your reviews?

z0ng September 25th, 2013 08:50

Yeah never had ANY problems with Airsoft Innovations grenades breaking during use. Had your typical o-ring issues from letting them dry out in the past but never any mechanical problem from something I did during use.

One deployment involved hurling a grenade as hard as I possibly could at an outdoor game towards and enemy position. In hindsight it was a bad idea as it could have hurt someone if I hit anyone in the head with it but fortunately it smacked into concrete instead. The grenade still functioned 100% fine afterwards, just some scuffing to it from the impact. How did you actually manage to break part of it?

The only issues I've had with AI grenades have been problems I've created for myself, such as losing the grenade pins, wiping the grease off the threading accidentally on one grenade and having to un-seize the screw-on cap from the grenade body and letting an o-ring or two dry out which fixable by purchasing an o-ring replacement kit or just not being negligent with your gear and keeping it correctly oiled when stored.

Take care of your new grenades there and you'll get hundreds of deployments and years of use out of them. Pick up one or two of the o-ring replacement kits as that's the component that appears to degrade and fail over time. At one point I owned nine AI grenades, 6 impacts and 3 timers, and only had to do 3 partial o-ring replacements whilst they were under my care.

JadedKommando September 25th, 2013 09:16

The part that broke was the threaded cap at the bottom of the grenade to cover the propane filler port. I'm not sure how they broke (it happened twice on the same day), I think they hit the bottom of the grenade on the concrete floor. When I tossed the grenade it functioned as per normal, when I was able to retrieve the grenade the bottom cover was off the grenade and it had snapped at the threads. I had replacement parts from my maintenance kit so it was a quick fix.

Brian McIlmoyle September 25th, 2013 10:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by JadedKommando (Post 1836131)
The part that broke was the threaded cap at the bottom of the grenade to cover the propane filler port. I'm not sure how they broke (it happened twice on the same day), I think they hit the bottom of the grenade on the concrete floor. When I tossed the grenade it functioned as per normal, when I was able to retrieve the grenade the bottom cover was off the grenade and it had snapped at the threads. I had replacement parts from my maintenance kit so it was a quick fix.

This part is considered "consumable" and inexpensive to replace. I have about 20 of these grenades, from the earliest model to the latest.

They are game changers in a CQB environment.

Every player needs one, for those " I wish I had a grenade" moments

Yes $100 is not inexpensive .. but if you work it out over cost per use. considering 100s of deployments are possible before any parts need replacing they are quite cost effective.

I look forward to seeing more innovative grenade products from Airsoft Innovations.

Armyissue September 25th, 2013 11:06

AATV Video Review: Tornado Airsoft Grenade - YouTube
This is a review of the Tornado from way back.

Forever_kaos September 25th, 2013 11:09

I spent $60 on 12 disposable pea/bb grenades. A lot more fun, but a lot more costly in the long run, as Brian mentions.

Wee bit more dangerous as well. Not every host will allow such grenades.

These are surely something I am working up towards, after experience the "grenade fun" for myself.

Adamlxlx September 25th, 2013 11:14

Honestly they are good products but pretty useless 9/10 outdoors.

Brian McIlmoyle September 25th, 2013 11:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adamlxlx (Post 1836161)
Honestly they are good products but pretty useless 9/10 outdoors.

agree, but in that 1 in 10 circumstance... they rock.

outdoors they work better as traps for defensive use.

but used in numbers.. even outdoors they can be effective.. if you have 3 or 4 guys tossing one at one hard target.

yaric September 26th, 2013 22:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manvil (Post 1836050)
You should contact their support through email if you have any problems, their customer service is some of the best i've encountered.

Also, I haven't personally found any airsoft grenade that has the bb capacity or coverage that it offers. If you want to compare it to a sound emitting grenade their dd kit does a bang up job. (pun intended).

They have great customer service. I am thinking to buy second one as long as it is on sale.

The only bad thing with grenade.... it is really takes a lot of time to re-charge it. You need to take off cloves and so on. Really you can do it only on break.

JadedKommando September 29th, 2013 09:07

It's awesome to hear so many positive comments about their customer service. It is a pain to reload the grenades after use. I carry 2 speed loaders and I have their gas can filler device, I can reload my grenades in just a few minutes. And I use the gas can to fill my pistol mags as well.

BloodSport September 29th, 2013 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by yaric (Post 1836631)
They have great customer service. I am thinking to buy second one as long as it is on sale.

The only bad thing with grenade.... it is really takes a lot of time to re-charge it. You need to take off cloves and so on. Really you can do it only on break.

Games out this way it's part of the rules that you can not reload them while playing. Only back at base or a CCP.

As you would not be reloading a real grenade in field.

JadedKommando October 21st, 2013 09:33

I was just surfing Airsoft Depot and found this;

Airsoft MK2 Grenade (Gas powered)
http://www.airsplat.com/Images/AC-UP-SNKER-MK2-1.jpg
Has anyone used them? They go for about $35, I'm just curious how effective they are

Brian McIlmoyle October 21st, 2013 09:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by JadedKommando (Post 1843029)
I was just surfing Airsoft Depot and found this;

Airsoft MK2 Grenade (Gas powered)
http://www.airsplat.com/Images/AC-UP-SNKER-MK2-1.jpg
Has anyone used them? They go for about $35, I'm just curious how effective they are

no comparison to AI grenade with respect to bb spread and force. Better than tossing a stone, but not much

Gotrice23 October 21st, 2013 10:19

I have one of those. It's possible to mod it so that it works better, but you'll still have problems with the fuse. Mine actually developed a leak so now it's just a paperweight with tape all over it. Don't bother.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JadedKommando (Post 1843029)
I was just surfing Airsoft Depot and found this;

Airsoft MK2 Grenade (Gas powered)
http://www.airsplat.com/Images/AC-UP-SNKER-MK2-1.jpg
Has anyone used them? They go for about $35, I'm just curious how effective they are


targetGspot December 4th, 2013 15:06

i've got an impact tornado and it works well. i play outdoors and found it useful when charging a tower. also as a boobytrap, rest on a branch or hang it from a tree then shoot it with sniper rifle-no more effective than hitting target with rifle but funny as shit! i've put reflective tape on mine to help find it in the bush.

BioRage December 4th, 2013 15:31

They are key for CQB, I also recommend people stay away from the black ones, lol.

I don't know how many times I hear of the "black" ones being missing/lost.

For outdoors I know people tie nylon strings on them so they can track them in the brushes, but darn, I need to grab me some haha.

Chiba December 26th, 2013 22:08

Would love to know where to get the disposable ones.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forever_kaos (Post 1836157)
I spent $60 on 12 disposable pea/bb grenades. A lot more fun, but a lot more costly in the long run, as Brian mentions.

Wee bit more dangerous as well. Not every host will allow such grenades.

These are surely something I am working up towards, after experience the "grenade fun" for myself.



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