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Old March 6th, 2010, 19:32   #16
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These are what I have found so far. I really have no idea how difficult to put the following components together. I am pretty sure I am missing many internal vital components. Please let me know as well.

Scope + Laser Beam
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A.C.M. 3-9x32 Blue Rangefinder Rifle Scope With Red Dot Laser

Silencer
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DBOYS M4 Ported QD Silencer

Stock
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J.G. M4 6 Position Retractable Stock /w Buffer Tube

Rail System
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J.G. M4 Floating RIS Rail System

Grip
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Element G27 Ergonomic grip - BLACK

Front Iron Sight
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Element Vltor Replica Flip Up Front Sight

Front Folding Grip
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A.C.M. "Ice Pick" style Folding Vertical Grip

Motor
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J.G. High Power Motor
Don't but element or JG it's all pot metal, if your building a custom M4 you might as well do it right and go with G&P, Hurricane and CA among others.
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Old March 6th, 2010, 19:40   #17
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those are only external upgrades..... so basically, you'll need a good starter gun first (for the internal components) , and then buy those acessories to customize the look of your rifle....

BTW: forget the JG motor.... :P you can get a better brand.... (systema? )
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Old March 6th, 2010, 19:45   #18
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I built my M4 and it came to about the $1000 mark before batteries and mags, the most exspensive part being the Systema M120 mechbox and Systema magnum motor, that alone was almost $400 after exchange/shipping/customes ect.
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Old March 6th, 2010, 20:12   #19
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These are what I have found so far. I really have no idea how difficult to put the following components together. I am pretty sure I am missing many internal vital components. Please let me know as well.

Scope + Laser Beam
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A.C.M. 3-9x32 Blue Rangefinder Rifle Scope With Red Dot Laser

Silencer
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DBOYS M4 Ported QD Silencer

Stock
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J.G. M4 6 Position Retractable Stock /w Buffer Tube

Rail System
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J.G. M4 Floating RIS Rail System

Grip
----
Element G27 Ergonomic grip - BLACK

Front Iron Sight
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Element Vltor Replica Flip Up Front Sight

Front Folding Grip
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A.C.M. "Ice Pick" style Folding Vertical Grip

Motor
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J.G. High Power Motor
I'm sorry but that's like saying "I want to build a car from scratch, and these are the parts I have: one door, some windows, an exhaust pipe, some gas, a radio, some pedals, and a hood."

You need to do a little more research on what you need for a complete gun.
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Old March 6th, 2010, 20:15   #20
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get av'd and buy a starter gun in the classifieds, then decide what you want out of it, and then start buying, once you have the gun you can take a look at it inside and outside
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Old March 6th, 2010, 20:21   #21
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get av'd and buy a starter gun in the classifieds, then decide what you want out of it, and then start buying, once you have the gun you can take a look at it inside and outside
agreed i mean mine started as this


and is now this


buy a gun then slowly modify it building a gun from scratch is costly, as it stands i've spent over 900$ on mine and its not even scratch built
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Old March 6th, 2010, 20:25   #22
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Basically it would have cost me about $1000 to build.
This is so true I just finished scratch building a King Arms Vltor M4. All in it cost just over $1300 for all the parts I wanted. I could have bought the same gun for $7-800.
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Old March 6th, 2010, 20:40   #23
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What Mist3r.B means is that if you mix different brands of gears, piston, etc... inside your gearbox, they might not fit. The tolerance in the machining process is not exactly the same from brand to brand so they might not be an exact fit. To minimize those chance of problems, you should stick to the same brand for all your gearbox parts.
Exactly, for exemple a G&G V2 gearbox will not fit properly in a G&P m4 body . It also apply on external parts. Those cost a lot and can be hard to adjust when their a fittement issue. I know pleople who spent 5h making a KA RIS fit a G&P receiver.
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Old March 6th, 2010, 20:58   #24
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agreed i mean mine started as this
Thanks for the suggestion guys. How much did you paid for your m4 and what brand is that?

I really want to remove the front long gun barrel and flashhider, then replace it with a silencer like the following.


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Old March 6th, 2010, 21:09   #25
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Thanks for the suggestion guys. How much did you paid for your m4 and what brand is that?

I really want to remove the front long gun barrel and flashhider, then replace it with a silencer like the following.

what do you mean by the front long gun barrel?

Basically, if you buy that cansoft G&G m4, you'll only need to change the front sight/gas block, rear sight, add a vert grip, a silencer, and a PEQ... :P
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Old March 6th, 2010, 21:09   #26
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Thanks for the suggestion guys. How much did you paid for your m4 and what brand is that?

I really want to remove the front long gun barrel and flashhider, then replace it with a silencer like the following.

its a G&G CQBR the prices vary on the retailer selling them
i've seen them sit at 400$ + your best bet though and probably cheapest is to meet up with an Age verifier and purchase a gun from the classifieds.
how to get verified
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Old March 6th, 2010, 21:29   #27
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I just built one it's in my sig.... PIMP.. lol
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Old March 6th, 2010, 21:50   #28
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I've built a couple of AEGs so far...a couple from scratch and simply modding exisiting ones.

If it's your first AEG....buy something solid and go from there. You might not end up with much of anything from what you started with....but you'll have a higher chance of success along the way. You'll likely end up with 90% of the parts that you need to build a second M4 (or rebuild the original one depending on how you look at it).

If you're familiar with AEG parts, manufacturers and options...then scratch build if that'll get you what you want.

You will get a nicer build doing it from scratch if you buy good parts.

Do not scratch build with clone parts...stick to G&P/KA. If you picked all G&P parts they'd likely go together like butter and look sweet. If you picked a bunch of clone parts from different makes you might very well end up with a crooked stick with 8 shades of black (I kid you not...this is entirely possible).

I just built 2 gas rifles this weekend. Actually better to say that I rebuilt them. One was working...ok/so-so...the other wasn't assembled. I worked back and forth between the parts and figuring it out as I went (they were my very first attempts at building up magna system rifles). Even after building/rebuilding/repairing several AEGs, I'm glad for these gas rifles I bought something that was sort or pre-built already to get a running start at it. I've received literally baggies of parts before and been asked to assemble a rifle out of it...it's not hard, but it's not the nicer way to go.

** if none of the above made any sense to you....don't scratch build...buy an AEG and mod it piece by piece **

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Old March 6th, 2010, 22:47   #29
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1. Are there any Canada online retails selling G&P, Hurricane, King Arms or CA m4 and m4 parts?

2. Is C&G a quality brand?

3. Would anyone recommend a good Rail system (RAS)? Does different length of RAS has different effects? I am thinking of 10" Free Floating Forearm Rail System w/ M4 Outer Barrel, and then attach with a silencer. Would that be too long for a gun barrel?

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Old March 6th, 2010, 22:48   #30
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Are there any Canada online retails selling G&P, Hurricane, King Arms or CA m4 and m4 parts?
If your looking for a high end base M4, check out the Vega Force M4s at Mach one.

Vega Force is really high end stuff. Very well made.
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