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Old May 6th, 2010, 20:48   #61
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Just what we need, 5 year olds running around on the streets of Toronto playing airsoft without goggles.
How so? Let the little fucking monkeys shoot their eyes out, it'll teach them a lifelong lesson...
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Old May 6th, 2010, 20:59   #62
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How so? Let the little fucking monkeys shoot their eyes out, it'll teach them a lifelong lesson...
The lesson will be: Its not my fault I was stupid and put my eye out. It was the fault of evil airsoft guns. Even the soccer moms and the government say so!
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Old May 6th, 2010, 21:17   #63
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ahh yes the soccer moms, touche
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Old May 6th, 2010, 21:17   #64
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The lesson will be: Its not my fault I was stupid and put my eye out. It was the fault of evil airsoft guns. Even the soccer moms and the government say so!
Which is why our community makes every effort to clearly and firmly dissociate itself from underaged players with crapsoft.
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Old May 6th, 2010, 21:22   #65
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Yes our community does do this, but does it matter? Its not like the anti's will ever acknowledge that we put massive amounts of effort into promoting safety and responsible gun use.
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Old May 6th, 2010, 21:23   #66
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Which is why our community makes every effort to clearly and firmly dissociate itself from underaged players with crapsoft.
This is not what we want here.

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Old May 6th, 2010, 21:24   #67
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Old May 6th, 2010, 21:32   #68
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Yes our community does do this, but does it matter? Its not like the anti's will ever acknowledge that we put massive amounts of effort into promoting safety and responsible gun use.
In and by itself, no not really: the antis will be anti no matter what, they want zero guns, period. There's no reasoning with it.

Will it keep certain retailers from still selling to minors? Or parents careless buying guns for their kids and then failing to supervise them? No.

Will our promoting safety and responsible gun use and proper use of airsoft help? Only those willing to listen, which in most cases aren't the people mentioned above anyway.

But if an incident does happen, you want to make sure nobody (read "the media") can turn around and point a finger at us, or show some report on CBC about how they enlisted some 12 y.o kid who was then able to easily get access to a gun because of us.
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Old May 6th, 2010, 21:37   #69
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Hmm. your comments make sense. However I still think its a loosing battle. Those who are inclined to point a finger at us will still find a reason, even if its just "this would never have happened if those guys at ASC didn't make airsoft look so fun and enjoyable."
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Old May 6th, 2010, 22:18   #70
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2000 guns sold? but how many are from repeat customers? How many of those are vets? And how many of those are uniformed newbies who dont know any better? If you recall, I once attempted to purchase a gun from you (back when you were selling better quality stuff on asc), while I got lots of promises from you, I never got any results. Instead of leaving you bad feedback (as the transaction never took place), I was courteus enough to just let it drop and spend my money elsewhere. Walk in store or not, people dont forget shit like that. I know I wont.
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Got my L96 off Shootsoft (When it was new, mind you). Came with the barrel scratched up, BBs scattered everywhere (inside the HEAVILY beaten box), the trigger guard missing a piece of plastic, and one of the sears snapped in half.

I would hardly call that new. Still, I was reassured that it was 'new' and because I didn't want to go through the hassle of mailing it to whoever his distributor was -- I ended up opening the gun and fixing the broken parts with some epoxy.

I haven't dealt with Shootsoft since and have no future plans to.
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Old May 6th, 2010, 23:04   #71
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This is not what we want here.

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Old May 7th, 2010, 00:00   #72
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I initially considered them for buying my L85 two years ago but the email & PM communications threw me off.

Days to over a week worth of waiting to get a copypasta reply in Jean Chretien' style frenglish that left a couple simple yet critial questions unanswered (along the lines of "is it already in Canada" and "will you test it before shipping") made my "buyer sense" tingle.
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Old May 7th, 2010, 01:32   #73
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Hmm. your comments make sense. However I still think its a loosing battle. Those who are inclined to point a finger at us will still find a reason, even if its just "this would never have happened if those guys at ASC didn't make airsoft look so fun and enjoyable."
Yeah but that's going to happen whatever we do; so if/when it does, you want to make sure it's clear to the uninformed masses, and maybe especially to authorities, that we actively discouraged it, promoted safe and responsible ownership and play, did everything in our power to keep it from happening, and condemned rather than condoned those who did facilitate it.

If an incident happened tomorrow morning and some wannabe-clever news type decided to come poking around to see if they could find something they could stick on us, they'd be dealt a swift backhand after reading a few of Pusangani's replies to underaged kids trying to get a gun :P

And I think most people are still sensitive enough to realize "this would never have happened if those guys at ASC didn't make airsoft look so fun and enjoyable" is a bit of a straw man fallacy... sorta like the arguments against tobacco sponsorships, which would have us believe simply seeing the logo will make us want to smoke (everyone in marketing would be on welfare or flipping burgers at McD's). And just to rant, that was like the one single positive contribution tobacco companies were making: now they're selling just as much tobacco products, making as much profits, and all those sporting and entertainment events that were receiving money are now underfunded. Good going, Big Brother, thanks for saving me from that horrible duMaurier logo.
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Old May 8th, 2010, 00:21   #74
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shoot soft not a scam !!!

The Guy finaly sent my order in the mail so everybody calm down it takes a while
Ps Be Kind He is doing his best !
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Old May 8th, 2010, 01:32   #75
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The Guy finaly sent my order in the mail so everybody calm down it takes a while
Ps Be Kind He is doing his best !
Everyone IS calm; YOU were the one panic posting every 20 minutes that you'd made a purchase from him.

And some people do have legit complaints.
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