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Old March 1st, 2010, 13:41   #16
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Thanx for all the input from everyone.. Much appreciated..
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Old March 1st, 2010, 14:09   #17
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Before you go buying a gun, its best to try and figure out what role you would like to play. Best way to figure this out is to head out to games (as has been said, the Events section of Ontario is always lively) inquire about rentals and go from there. Once you have some hands on experience with the sport and the guns used you will be able to make a much more educated judgement. But even if the gun you get you don't like you can always sell it off and get another.

That being said, be prepared to spend quite of a bit of cash to get all the things you need to start. Try and aim for about $600, this includes the gun itself, batteries, mags, charger, eye protection, boots and gear to carry everything you need. Then comes things like BDUs (camo), optics, upgrades and other secondary items. Best advice you can get is this: don't cheap out. The saying "you get what you pay for" can not be truer anywhere else but airsoft. When looking at things like guns, you will always find stuff that are cheap and things that are expensive. Keep in mind theres usually a good reason why they have the price they do. When you buy a cheap gun, you will end up paying the value of the gun in repairs/upgrades, and sometimes more than the gun is worth. Same goes for almost anything. The most important piece of kit you will get is eye protection. DO NOT JOKE AROUND ABOUT THIS! You only have one set of eyes (unless you live near the Pickering Nuclear Plant) so make sure you get a good quality set of goggles. Keep in mind what fields allow what eye protection too. For example: certain paintball fields ONLY allow paintball rated goggles. Even if you show up with a pair of ESS goggles which some fields allow and can withstand a 12 gauge shotgun blast, they will not allow you on the field with them because of their insurance policy.

Before I leave, I will also advise you to read ALL of the stickies and information. They contain a wealth of knowledge that will overwhelm you at first, but take it one step at a time. If you have a question, chances are its already been answered in the stickies or elsewhere which can all be found by the search bar at the top. When you have a question, use the search bar and see if its been answered. Try more than once, if you still cant find the answer then by all means make a new thread here in the Tank. We just sometimes get a little tired answering the same questions over and over, especially after we have told the user to do their own research. Some people may come off as harsh but just take it with a grain of salt, and carry on.

Other than that, look forward to seeing you on the field!
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Old March 1st, 2010, 14:25   #18
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I think Toronto has CQB arena. you need to ask someone in toronto for confirm
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Old March 1st, 2010, 14:45   #19
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Before you go buying a gun, its best to try and figure out what role you would like to play. Best way to figure this out is to head out to games (as has been said, the Events section of Ontario is always lively) inquire about rentals and go from there. Once you have some hands on experience with the sport and the guns used you will be able to make a much more educated judgement. But even if the gun you get you don't like you can always sell it off and get another.

That being said, be prepared to spend quite of a bit of cash to get all the things you need to start. Try and aim for about $600, this includes the gun itself, batteries, mags, charger, eye protection, boots and gear to carry everything you need. Then comes things like BDUs (camo), optics, upgrades and other secondary items. Best advice you can get is this: don't cheap out. The saying "you get what you pay for" can not be truer anywhere else but airsoft. When looking at things like guns, you will always find stuff that are cheap and things that are expensive. Keep in mind theres usually a good reason why they have the price they do. When you buy a cheap gun, you will end up paying the value of the gun in repairs/upgrades, and sometimes more than the gun is worth. Same goes for almost anything. The most important piece of kit you will get is eye protection. DO NOT JOKE AROUND ABOUT THIS! You only have one set of eyes (unless you live near the Pickering Nuclear Plant) so make sure you get a good quality set of goggles. Keep in mind what fields allow what eye protection too. For example: certain paintball fields ONLY allow paintball rated goggles. Even if you show up with a pair of ESS goggles which some fields allow and can withstand a 12 gauge shotgun blast, they will not allow you on the field with them because of their insurance policy.

Before I leave, I will also advise you to read ALL of the stickies and information. They contain a wealth of knowledge that will overwhelm you at first, but take it one step at a time. If you have a question, chances are its already been answered in the stickies or elsewhere which can all be found by the search bar at the top. When you have a question, use the search bar and see if its been answered. Try more than once, if you still cant find the answer then by all means make a new thread here in the Tank. We just sometimes get a little tired answering the same questions over and over, especially after we have told the user to do their own research. Some people may come off as harsh but just take it with a grain of salt, and carry on.

Other than that, look forward to seeing you on the field!
I have already picked out the gun i like. The G&G M4 commando seems cool. watched a youtube vid on it and i like how it is set up ready to customize just that issue the guy said about the battery in the gun but stock but i can deal with that i'm pretty practical.. Tactical gear is easy to get as i live a stones throw from yonge st right by the army surplus there. Goggles was already on my list my vision is important so i understand that for sure.. firist thing is first though and thats the rifle which i think i am going to order tomorrow and hopeully be ready to play at the end of the month.. I really appreciate the help i have gotten so far. Thanx guys..
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Old March 1st, 2010, 19:53   #20
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Like I said, its advisable to wait ordering a gun. At least until you get AV'ed as then you will have a MUCH wider selection. For example, if you were buying a car then you would look in the newspaper without knowing of other options. Getting your AV status updated then its akin to finding out that you can look at a wider array of cars via the Internet. The G&G M4 is a decent rifle but does have some compression problems, and it comes with an ugly assed transparent receiver. Again this is merely my opinion (which Im sure many others feel the same way) and if your into the M4, there are other options like TM, CA, G&P which will cost a little more but you def. get more for your money that way. In the end its your decision and just hoping to shed some more light on yer situation.

Cheers dude!
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Old March 1st, 2010, 23:43   #21
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Like I said, its advisable to wait ordering a gun. At least until you get AV'ed as then you will have a MUCH wider selection. For example, if you were buying a car then you would look in the newspaper without knowing of other options. Getting your AV status updated then its akin to finding out that you can look at a wider array of cars via the Internet. The G&G M4 is a decent rifle but does have some compression problems, and it comes with an ugly assed transparent receiver. Again this is merely my opinion (which Im sure many others feel the same way) and if your into the M4, there are other options like TM, CA, G&P which will cost a little more but you def. get more for your money that way. In the end its your decision and just hoping to shed some more light on yer situation.

Cheers dude!
I think you got the gun i picked confused. I picked the commando..

https://www.buyairsoft.ca/gandg-m4-commando.html

Pretty raw and easy to customize...
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 00:06   #22
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I think you got the gun i picked confused. I picked the commando..

https://www.buyairsoft.ca/gandg-m4-commando.html

Pretty raw and easy to customize...
that gun has a semi clear/ tinted plastic reciever (Tinted Polymer Composite Lower Receiver) it's crap compared to G&P,CA,VFC....
you should wait until you get age verified
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 06:20   #23
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that gun has a semi clear/ tinted plastic reciever (Tinted Polymer Composite Lower Receiver) it's crap compared to G&P,CA,VFC....
you should wait until you get age verified


Metal Upper Receiver with Tinted Polymer Composite Lower Receiver.


Not a big deal. All of the receivers that are solid and metal are non civilian. Might not seem that big of a deal but getting caught with a rifle that is registered non civilian has a heavy price to pay. You can say good bye to traveling and that puts a flag up for CSIS not to mention you will have your rifle taken away from you and prob will no longer be allowed to even own a cap gun and you could serve time.. Just saying..
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 07:15   #24
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Another reason to hold off on purchasing a gun is to see if you're really into the sport. I introduced three people to airsoft last year; two of them bought guns and gear before their first game and now it all sits on a shelf gathering dust as one fellow played a single game, the other never made it out even one time.

Rentals are available at most places, and getting out a few times before making any decision will let you see what's out there - you may see something you'd much rather have than the AEG you are currently eying.
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 07:30   #25
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i'll be into it. I was heavy into paintball but didn't continue cause i found it to be a lot more costly. Paint and Co2 is pricey after awhile. I like the whole airsoft thing a lot more, i get what you are saying but i am sure i am going to be pretty into it.. I mean i'm sure i will be the noob and all and it will be a bit before i get into the local community aspect of it all meaning getting to know people but i'm sure i will have some fun. I really am appreciative of all the advise that was given from everyone but when i have my heart set it is set lol. The gun will be ok as i am sure it is totally customizable and i will be able to tweak it out the way i want it.. I'm not new to guns or anything in general just playing the sport i am..
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 11:11   #26
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Metal Upper Receiver with Tinted Polymer Composite Lower Receiver.


Not a big deal. All of the receivers that are solid and metal are non civilian. Might not seem that big of a deal but getting caught with a rifle that is registered non civilian has a heavy price to pay. You can say good bye to traveling and that puts a flag up for CSIS not to mention you will have your rifle taken away from you and prob will no longer be allowed to even own a cap gun and you could serve time.. Just saying..
It does seem that you have bought a little too much into someones marketing scheme. I suggest you do a little bit more reading on the laws surrounding airsoft. I personally have never dealt with police and black/metal guns, but plenty of people here have and their as good as can be in the laws eyes. It all depends on a few things. Dont ever carry these around in public, opaque or clear it doesnt matter. How you conduct yourself with the police about this, if its explained in very calm and educated manner then you will have nothing to worry about. The most important thing is to make sure no one sees it that shouldn't see it (eg: neighbors, general public, etc...) Carry them around in gun bags/cases, guitar cases, ski bags, something that doesnt scream GUNGUNGUNGUN to the soccer moms.

A good majority of the players here all use full black full metal guns and none of us are heading for jail or restricted in our travels because of our airsoft guns.
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 11:19   #27
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 11:26   #28
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I introduced three people to airsoft last year; two of them bought guns and gear before their first game and now it all sits on a shelf gathering dust as one fellow played a single game, the other never made it out even one time.
funny hey?
I once kept spare gear and guns for the friend who would be interested to come, I don't anymore...
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 11:29   #29
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Metal Upper Receiver with Tinted Polymer Composite Lower Receiver.


Not a big deal. All of the receivers that are solid and metal are non civilian. Might not seem that big of a deal but getting caught with a rifle that is registered non civilian has a heavy price to pay. You can say good bye to traveling and that puts a flag up for CSIS not to mention you will have your rifle taken away from you and prob will no longer be allowed to even own a cap gun and you could serve time.. Just saying..
Theres people who work for the police who play with the "oh so scary black metal guns". We have practically everyone from every walk of life, from university students to tradespeople, to lawyers and engineers, businessmen, IT/CS personnel, Police, Canadian Forces, hell I wouldn't be surprised if there were people who play that were in CSIS or CSOR or something like that. Just don't be stupid and you'll be fine.
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L473ncy is correct in his statement above...except for the CSIS guys and RCMP are instructed to get out of the sport because "it's behavior unbecoming an officer".

My team allows access to many extras that are available for new players to borrow for their first couple of games. This is because we have come across too many new players who have gone out and spent a fair amount of money on guns and kit that they thought they'd like, but shortly realize it's not what works for them. Some players like the look of ARs, but eventually turn to the AKs (why, Idont have the foggiest).

I always bring a back up AEG (and pistol), spare mags, and an extra carrier rig with pouches. But if a new player is lucky, my brother has sometimes loaned out his spare PTW to new guys........

Some of our guys have an insane amount of AEGs in their collections, some have extra kit laying around (It helps when 5 of the team members has been playing for over 12 years). So it's never been an issue. Besides, it clears the dust of some of the older stuff.

We don't mind, it helps out the new guys in our community.
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