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Old January 11th, 2010, 19:15   #1
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it never bother me until I play last night. who should win if person meet enemy by accident. (corner is popular spot) and both has guns point to other same time. Who should win? Because it occur lot in last night.
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Old January 11th, 2010, 19:23   #2
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Either call "mercy" or shoot them somewhere it won't hurt. (in the vest, in a pouch, in the boot, etc)

EDIT: Yeah or both come to a conclusion that you both died and go back to spawn/safe zone.
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Old January 11th, 2010, 19:23   #3
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both shoot both die mostly in my experience
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Old January 11th, 2010, 19:27   #4
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oh, okay. my issue was only situation where 2 person has both gun point to other. I do think that both players are dead. So, I don't have problem Just make sure, that all.
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Old January 11th, 2010, 19:28   #5
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As far as Im concerned the first to pull the trigger or say mercy or knife the other guy wins.
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Old January 11th, 2010, 19:33   #6
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As far as Im concerned the first to pull the trigger or say mercy or knife the other guy wins.
The person who is not hit would "win" just as always.

typically , they shoot each other.

it is not possible to "mercy" someone who has their gun pointed at you. If you are playing with mercy rules .. then both players would be out as neither could "legally" shoot there is no way of knowing who would have shot first. AND.. even if they did shoot .. both would likely be hit.

Who got hit first .. may work in childhood tag.. but it is 100% possible for someone who is shot, to in the instant of being hit to shoot back .. HIT is HIT

This is why you should not jump around corners and stand there .. stay in motion.. that way the corner camper has a moving target to hit .. and you will have a stationary one and the chance of mutual hit goes down
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Old January 11th, 2010, 19:49   #7
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of course. you shouldn't stay at one spot plus Xtreme tactics has rule against camper. Last game I play. Xtreme tactics change map. (they always change) to point where one several lane disappear and only 3 lanes left (1 lane is very short but extreme dangerous). often teams stay at far corner and shoot over long distance toward enemy area. It become to long distance game with few sneak around to flank enemies.
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Old January 11th, 2010, 19:53   #8
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Alot of the time when people pop around a corner I point my gun at them and say "mercy"

There certainly have been times where people have come around a corner and we've just stood there with guns pointed at each other for a second or two..

There may have been times where some one's pointed at you can called Mercy... I'm not sure on what XT's rule for "touch" mercies are, so when I'm in a public game all of my mercies are gun pointed at some one with an audible "mercy", but in a private game I'll bring my rubber knife if everyone's OK with it.

Edit: I certainly agree with you that the new 3 lane set-up makes things much more static at XT... It's basically a race for who can get into a defensive position on one of the lanes first and keep enough guys moving to reinforce it... I find that for me it cut down quite a bit on the speed of the game. But it's certainly nice to see something new... I think it could be improved by removing the big gate that's blocking off the entrance to the dark room in the middle, having it so there's only 2 ways into that place makes is a pretty big camp-fest
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Old January 11th, 2010, 21:11   #9
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Ive had it happen recently, we both just took it as a mercy and went to respawn, its fair, nobody gets shot at close range, your back in the game after a short wait.

Id still probly do it the same way in a non respawn or limited respawn skirmish game.

Think of it this way, with real steel if two people come around the same corner at the same time and one shoots te other, it might not be an imediatly fatal or incapactitating wound, the wounded person can still possibly shoot back, or in getting shot his hand twitches pulling the trigger shooting the other. Both are hit both are wounded or dead.

Skirmishes are generaly short, its not that big of a deal that you haveto sit out for a few minutes, you can take the time to socialise with the other people who are out.
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Old January 11th, 2010, 21:19   #10
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I always shoot (mind you I'm a good shot and always have my gun at center mass level in CQB so I always hit armor)
I've seen and heard alot of people winning one of those encounters just because they said "mercy" first, even though their gun was down and the other guy's gun was up. The winner should be the fastest shot, not the fastest talker.

The only time I ever mercy someone is when I absolutely don't need to shoot them. For example if I can creep up behind them, or I'm within 10 feet, I'm aiming at them, and they just haven't noticed me.
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Old January 11th, 2010, 21:21   #11
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How can you mercy a guy if he has his gun pointed at you and yours isn't
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Old January 11th, 2010, 22:31   #12
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just shoot that should settle it theres no mercy in CQB because the distances are so close
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Old January 11th, 2010, 22:43   #13
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I've seen and heard alot of people winning one of those encounters just because they said "mercy" first, even though their gun was down and the other guy's gun was up. The winner should be the fastest shot, not the fastest talker.
I do agree with this issue. I usually let them know people know this by shooting them if they don't respond. but it is pretty rare case.
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Old January 11th, 2010, 22:46   #14
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i used to mercy at XT, but so few people mercy now.
unless i have a strait shot at some ones back or side and they don't know i'm there.

as wayne once said... if i shoot you before you finish saying mercy, you die and i keep going. that was the last time i tried to mercy some one
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Old January 11th, 2010, 22:53   #15
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The last game i was in at CQB the same situation happen, the only difference was i had my 6 nade revolver launcher 2" away from his face while he had his berreta pointed at my chest area, eventhough he called himself out and was relived when I didn't pull the trigger in the name of a good sport I called myself out.........now if the situation was different and he would pulled the trigger then who knows maybe an "accidental discharged" of 208 bbs may occur
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