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Old November 13th, 2009, 11:00   #31
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The price should tell you something about that.
Cost doesn't always determine the quality of the weapon, but rather how much the retailer paid to have it shipped to him.

*Usually* they are correlated, but there's no garantee of that.

So how are SRC guns compared to G&G, and further down the line, the VA custom line (G&G, or now, JG).
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Old November 13th, 2009, 11:38   #32
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I have actually bought the standard m4a1 from his new custom line-up they are in fact I cannot go to fields, almost 17 though Heh...

But the internals are what you expect from JG not excellent, not crappy, but decent, they have metal bushings at least :P Just make sure to reshim it, and remove that god awful grease....
So VA has been selling to minors?
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Old November 13th, 2009, 11:39   #33
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So VA has been selling to minors?
I don't think their online store has an age check. Much like every other retailer who ships.

And if it does, it's probably easily lied to.
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Old November 13th, 2009, 11:40   #34
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probably got his mommy or daddy to use there id .
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lol why is it that every single fucking underaged kid that comes thru here happens to have some private land to play on when accused of playing in public
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Old November 13th, 2009, 11:42   #35
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probably got his mommy or daddy to use there id .
He's not AV'd so use of an ID was not involved I think.


Again, does online ordering have age verification? If so it's probably easily tricked. I wonder whether the perpetrator understands that we don't approve of people under 18 being able to get airsoft guns.
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Old November 13th, 2009, 11:51   #36
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I just bring it up because Ive seen reps from VA be adamantly opposed to minors owning airsoft. I guess everyone will say that but when it comes to business they can easily change their tune.

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He's not AV'd so use of an ID was not involved I think.


Again, does online ordering have age verification? If so it's probably easily tricked. I wonder whether the perpetrator understands that we don't approve of people under 18 being able to get airsoft guns.
I'd guess the use of a credit card is enough for some people.
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Old November 13th, 2009, 11:54   #37
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it says on the site he requires I.D or age verification on asc to order
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Old November 13th, 2009, 12:03   #38
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I just bring it up because Ive seen reps from VA be adamantly opposed to minors owning airsoft. I guess everyone will say that but when it comes to business they can easily change their tune.



I'd guess the use of a credit card is enough for some people.
I had a credit card at 15. You can get sponsored credit cards which are tied into your parents credit accounts. For my parents it was just an extension of themselves so I could purchase things for them without carrying around cash. I could also use it for my things as long as I paid that part.

While I'm pretty sure not selling to under 18s is the best choice in marketing, as under 18s run the higher risk of creating an incident which could have airsoft banned altogether, it's really hard to enforce via online retail without some crazy administrative overhead.

Finding or making a scraper for ASC usernames and see if there is the AV image on their profile page might be worthwhile. But it's ultimately up to VA.

EDIT: There is no image like that on their profile. So without crazy administrative overhead, that is, making sure emails and usernames match up to the ones on here. There's hardly any way without doing everything manually for every purchase that makes something like that worthwhile.

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18+ years of age

By purchasing from VelocityArms.ca/Torontoairsoft.com you agree that you are at least 18 years of age at the time of purchase. If requested, you agree to present valid government photo ID to prove such information is true.
Guess mr 16yr old has some legal issues.
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Old November 13th, 2009, 19:51   #39
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I just bring it up because Ive seen reps from VA be adamantly opposed to minors owning airsoft. I guess everyone will say that but when it comes to business they can easily change their tune.



I'd guess the use of a credit card is enough for some people.
Yea, that's what buyairsoft used to say... until they became the #1 source for minors who wanted airsoft guns.
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I just bring it up because Ive seen reps from VA be adamantly opposed to minors owning airsoft. I guess everyone will say that but when it comes to business they can easily change their tune.



I'd guess the use of a credit card is enough for some people.
unfortunately this can easily be bypassed by using parents' credit card
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Old November 17th, 2009, 15:52   #42
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Cost doesn't always determine the quality of the weapon, but rather how much the retailer paid to have it shipped to him.

*Usually* they are correlated, but there's no garantee of that.

So how are SRC guns compared to G&G, and further down the line, the VA custom line (G&G, or now, JG).
You could try this for a comparison:
http://www.007airsoft.com/gngvssrc.htm

Personally I also look for aftermarket compatibility/upgradability along with it. JG mostly are since they're TM clones, but not too sure about SRC.
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