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Old September 26th, 2009, 15:11   #1
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Aimpoint ml2

Hey guys, i got an aimpoint ml2 from huang and the elevation can be adjusted, but it cant be lowered all the way to the front post when looking through the aimpoint. I turned the elevation screw as much as possible to lower the elevation of the reticle, but the screw just falls out when it reaches its limit. Ive attached a pic at the bottom to explain my dilemma. Currently, Im using a larue tactical cantilever mount and i know i can use a lower "L" mount to match the reticle with the front post but i really prefer to use this LT mount instead since Im going for the sopmod look.

Do all aimpoint clones have this problem or is it only mine? Which ones can be fully adjusted so that I can match the height of the reticle with the tip of the front post? Im thinking about ordering a Guarder Aimpoint from UNCompany since Ive heard good things about them. Can the elevation of this aimpoint be fully adjustable so i can match the reticle with the front post? Thanks guys

Heres the pic below. The reticle is actually slightly lower than what the picture shows (my camera was aimed straight), but its still not close in touching the front post:

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Old September 26th, 2009, 15:26   #2
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Uh, are you looking through the rear sight as well when you're trying to co-witness?

If it's at the same height as most other mounts, it should co-witness with the irons in the lower 3rd of the aimpoint window, not the center. You need to have a rear sight on there to co-witness, since the aimpoint is nearly parallax free, you can't just play around with it until it arbitrarily touches the front sight post.

Never mind the irons for a sec. Can you actually zero the red dot? Or is it still too high? If it's still to high, you'll probably have to shim it.
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Old September 26th, 2009, 16:22   #3
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Wait, i have 2 questions.

1. When i actually use my aimpoint, am i supposed to use it with the rear site as well? ie. lining up the rear site with the reticle with the front site. If so, what is the point of having the aimpoint?

2. I can adjust the elevation and windage of the red dot, but i cant adjust it low enough to touch the front post since the screw/cylinder falls right out.

3. What do you mean by shimming it?

My aimpoint is a clone so it is NOT parrallax free .
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Old September 27th, 2009, 01:01   #4
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you don't use it with the front and/or rear sights BUT when it is zeroed all 3 should line up. Look through your rear sight, put the top of the needle (on the front sight) in the middle of the rear sights hole, the adjust the reddot till it is also on top of the tip of the needle.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 01:04   #5
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Zero your front/rear irong sights.
Zero your aimpoint so it matches your front/lower.
Everything is zeroed.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 01:45   #6
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Yes, that is exactly what I did from day 1

1. I zeroed my front and rear iron sites only like this:




2. I tried to zero my aimpoint WITH my iron sights but the reticle can not be adjusted any lower as stated in my original post. Even if you looked through the rear sight, the bottom edge of the aimpoint is blocking my view of the front sight. Like this:



I tried to lower the reticle as much as possible until the elevation knob was undone like this:



I know i can get a lower mount as also stated in my previous post, but i want to use the larue tactical mount since im going for the sopmod look.

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Old September 27th, 2009, 01:48   #7
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Lol, nice diagram. Why not just shoot a little lower that your red dot?
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Old September 27th, 2009, 01:49   #8
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When you use your aimpoint, you do not need to line it up with anything. Once it's zeroed, bring the dot to the target and fire. That's it. You don't need your aimpoint reticule to be anywhere near your irons.

Co-witnessing is just a convenient way of zeroing your aimpoint, which can be used independently. You don't need anything on there but the aimpoint, but back up irons sure are nice for when the battery dies mid fight.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 01:49   #9
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your mount is obviously too high.

I mean... cmon! it's physically blocking your rear sight!
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Old September 27th, 2009, 01:51   #10
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Lol, nice diagram. Why not just shoot a little lower that your red dot?
Why? wouldnt u rather hit where your red dot is? I dont always wanna guestimate on the field.. I want to hit where my dot is.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 01:52   #11
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go to a field.

ZERO your gun ON THE FIELD.

I can't stress this enough. Newbies always zero their gun for range like 5 metres indoor. That's not possible for any sight system.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 01:54   #12
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When you use your aimpoint, you do not need to line it up with anything. Once it's zeroed, bring the dot to the target and fire. That's it. You don't need your aimpoint reticule to be anywhere near your irons.

Co-witnessing is just a convenient way of zeroing your aimpoint, which can be used independently. You don't need anything on there but the aimpoint, but back up irons sure are nice for when the battery dies mid fight.
Well the dudes above said that a the sights need to be zeroed with the reticle, so everything has to form a straignt line like this:

front site -------reticle-------back up site


Here is the thing, I want to be able to quickly switch between the sites and between the aimpoint. But i cant do this because the aimpoint aint lining up and the bottom edge of it is blocking my view. do u get it?!
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Old September 27th, 2009, 01:56   #13
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go to a field.

ZERO your gun ON THE FIELD.

I can't stress this enough. Newbies always zero their gun for range like 5 metres indoor. That's not possible for any sight system.
Well obviously you zero your gun at farther distances and not FIVE meters. Come on, its an insult you would even say that to me. And there is no point is zeroing my aimpoint on the field if i cant even see the damn front sight!
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Old September 27th, 2009, 01:56   #14
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One more reason I almost never use any kind of sight system. I just shoot a feeler shot to see where Im aiming and adjust from there. Hasn't done me wrong so far. Plenty of face has been eaten without the need for sights.
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One more reason I almost never use any kind of sight system. I just shoot a feeler shot to see where Im aiming and adjust from there. Hasn't done me wrong so far. Plenty of face has been eaten without the need for sights.
Agreed. This is what I do. I take a shot at the beginning of the day, figure out where the gun is shooting, and just adjust for the rest of the day. Maybe take the time at lunch to adjust the irons, but, not a big deal. Unless its massively off... But otherwise, just eyeball it.
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