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Old September 15th, 2009, 13:35   #1
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Why are these guns so bad?

Okay, so I have this question...Why are Wal-Mart guns so bad? I mean, the most expensive ($100 + tax). Like I said, I have a JG, and now you peoples are just going to say "stick with the JG...ANYTHING from Wal-Mart Sucks!)...Well, I BEG TO DIFFER!!!

Their BBs (Ultrasonic .20 gram Jet Plack Seameless Polished BBs) are actually pretty good! But, I have a DPMS Panther Arms "Field Duty Kid" that came with a "Colt MK IV Series 80"...(Their spring pistols sucks! Other Than their Double-Eagle, again the most expensive spring pistol gun...But I would put it up against any expensive spring pistol...But there are none...So lulz).

But, last time I checked, it is made out of ABS plastic, has a metal barrell, and the hop-up access is still the same as my JG or the "Echoe's". Yes, the internals are plastic, NO...it does not jam! It shoots around 303fps with .20 gram BBs, but I think it clocks out more at like 340 (don't ask me how, but my Wal-Mart, most powereful gun at the time, shoots 315fps, but my Wal-Mart M4 shoots at about 303fps, but yet, it broke my skin...Yes...shot in the same area, that I have been shot literally 7 times in before, BROKE MY SKIN! Yes, oh yes, there was blood! Which leads me to believe that it is an under-estimate that Wal-Mart gave the gun!

The thing is accurate as hell, and so far, in short term durability, and performance, it levels out just about with my "JG". Quality might be a different story because of the internals, but so far, NO PROBLEM! .

The thing shoots like a beast, like I said broke my skin, and I was bleeding, but the RPM is fast...Like my JG.

I have gotten "flamed" and "trolled" on other boards on other sites, but I have be-friended some of the people, and ironically, they said that they use Wal-Mart guns.

The only thing that is not good about my gun, which doesn't matter, because its fits me PERFECTLY, is that it does not have a retractible stock.

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NiCad Battery-7.2v
303fps with .20 gram BBs (read what I said before)
ABS plastic
25/25 accurace (which like I said, I thought it was a "gimmic", but suprisingly is true, because they rate some of their other guns 10/25 or 18/25 accuracy)
And the RPM, I am not sure of, but is about the same as my JG...or just equally as fast.
Adjustable "hop-up" system.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 13:37   #2
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Old September 15th, 2009, 13:37   #3
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If you've ever actually played a full day's game with a Walmart gun, you'll soon find out why.

Backyard plinking does not a good gun make.

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Old September 15th, 2009, 13:38   #4
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They are so bad because of what they are made out of. They lack a ton of realism, and they lack durability. They easily can, and definitely will, break on you before long. So it ends up being a waste of money, since they are proprietary parts usually, and can't just be replaced with a real metal gearbox and parts.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 13:47   #6
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Yes...shot in the same area, that I have been shot literally 7 times in before, BROKE MY SKIN! Yes, oh yes, there was blood! Which leads me to believe that it is an under-estimate that Wal-Mart gave the gun!
So that means blood = good quality?
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If you've ever actually played a full day's game with a Walmart gun, you'll soon find out why.

Backyard plinking does not a good gun make.

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Lol, I have played a full days game with one, it HAS jammed. I use my JG for crying out loud, READ! I just mean for what ever small use, it is fine. I would prefer to put in new durable parts, and I already said what it is made out of (this is directed to everyone)...ABS plastic the same as my JG...? Sounds kind of funny/weird/ironic doesn't it? Well then, I guess I will just quit airsoft forever, even though the guy that told me to "just stop" or something like that and "its going to break"...4 months of use has done me well!

But now, quite seriously, how do I close my account?
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So that means blood = good quality?
Once again, you ill-minded people with your selective seeing. I was TRYING to say that the muzzle velocity was high enough to do so, rather than my friends Echo 1s don't do it, and even I know, you cannot compare accuracy t muzzle velocity. So, stop taking things out of context
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Old September 15th, 2009, 13:51   #9
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Stop assuming something is good because it compares to another shitty gun. In comparison to a lot of name brand stuff, JG still lacks in a lot of ways, so you're not experiencing much with what you have. Compared to actual airsoft gun brands (Namely Classic Army, Tokyo Marui, G&P and the like) that clearsoft shit won't even compare in any sense. Try and game that plastic thing for a solid day, The battery will crap out, the gearbox will crack, gears will strip, wiring will just fuck up. The JG? Might last a while, but you're not getting much out of it.

Walmart crap is simply not worth the money you paid, that hundred you wasted could've been saved for something of actual worth.

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So that means blood = good quality?
He plays paintball, I mean, srsly, pain makes teh sport lololol
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Well then, I guess I will just quit airsoft forever, even though the guy that told me to "just stop" or something like that and "its going to break"...4 months of use has done me well!

But now, quite seriously, how do I close my account?
I think I just had deja vu. I'm pretty sure you already said the same thing yesterday but you're still here.

Short answer: Just don't log on to ASC again.
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Stop assuming something is good because it compares to another shitty gun. In comparison to a lot of name brand stuff, JG still lacks in a lot of ways, so you're not experiencing much with what you have. Compared to actual airsoft gun brands (Namely Classic Army, Tokyo Marui, G&P and the like) that clearsoft shit won't even compare in any sense. Try and game that plastic thing for a solid day, The battery will crap out, the gearbox will crack, gears will strip, wiring will just fuck up.

Simply not worth the money you paid, that hundred you wasted could've been saved for something of actual worth.
Stop assuming something is good because it compares to another shitty gun. In comparison to a lot of name brand stuff, JG still lacks in a lot of...

Im going to stop you right there. It was a starter gun, and sorry, I did not read the rest of your post, nor do I care to. But, I got it as a starter gun...So, yes, my fault, maybe I should of clarified:As a starter gun, why are they so looked-down uppon? JG is a shitty gun...? Wow, really? Oh...I guess the reviews and quality were wrong? Maybe I should have spend $600 not $300...Thanks!
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I think I just had deja vu. I'm pretty sure you already said the same thing yesterday but you're still here.

Short answer: Just don't log on to ASC again.
I just had Deja Vu TOO!!! Wow, weird isn't it? I asked it, but no one gave me an answer...I want to completely CLOSE it because apparently just not logging off is not enough, according to some people.
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I think I just had deja vu. I'm pretty sure you already said the same thing yesterday but you're still here.

Short answer: Just don't log on to ASC again.
Sorry, I had Deja Vu about your slightly moronic answers, lulz.
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CanadianM4....I reported you to the mods. They will help you close your account.

Can we now close this thread too?
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Old September 15th, 2009, 13:57   #15
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Lol, I have played a full days game with one, it HAS jammed. I use my JG for crying out loud, READ! I just mean for what ever small use, it is fine. I would prefer to put in new durable parts, and I already said what it is made out of (this is directed to everyone)...ABS plastic the same as my JG...? Sounds kind of funny/weird/ironic doesn't it? Well then, I guess I will just quit airsoft forever, even though the guy that told me to "just stop" or something like that and "its going to break"...4 months of use has done me well!

But now, quite seriously, how do I close my account?
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