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Old August 20th, 2009, 02:06   #16
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Thanks for all your replies. So today was my first day firing an AEG. I was even a bit startled when I fired my first shot since I wasn't expecting it to be that loud.

Anyways, Im using the Tamiya connectors now and it seems to be okay, though I have nothing to compare it to since it's my first time firing an AEG. If I upgrade to Deans connector/clone of the teams from Dealextreme, will I see or feel any improvements when firing?
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Old August 20th, 2009, 02:09   #17
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Deans =

Faster trigger response, rate of fire and slightly improved battery life

And a connection that wont come un-done during a game lol
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Old August 20th, 2009, 02:11   #18
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Faster trigger response, rate of fire and slightly improved battery life

And a connection that wont come un-done during a game lol
Thanks Amos... Well, I havent really soldered anything before, so im a bit nervous. Is it difficult to do? Do I just pick up any solder and the roll of wires (I forgot what this type of wire is called) at Home Depot?
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Old August 20th, 2009, 02:14   #19
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Should be called solder , pronounced Sodder, if i remember correctly. If your that uneasy, im sure you know someone that can use it properly.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 02:25   #20
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Should be called solder , pronounced Sodder, if i remember correctly. If your that uneasy, im sure you know someone that can use it properly.

Well, I dont really know too many people around. If I do ask someone to do it, i know they are going to charge me like hell. Might as well learn how to do it now so I can use this skill forever:

"Teach a man how to catch a fish instead of catching the fish for him"

I was dead nervous when carving a rail into my gun, but I was able to manage it. Soldering shouldnt be too hard...
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Old August 20th, 2009, 04:47   #21
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Nah man, you did that rail. Compared to that, soldering is child's play.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 10:55   #22
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Soldering isn't hard. Just get a decent Soldering Station (I have a Hakko 936) and make sure that when you cut your batteries wires, you don't short them by accident. You'll be surprised to see the spark if it happens (with li-pos). Ni-MH aren't that bad. Also, make sure to tin your connectors first, then heat your connectors to prevent cold joints. Don't heat too long or your plastic will melt. You should solder with a second connector connected to the one you are soldering, it makes them looser and easier to plug\unplug afterwards.

You can find some soldering tutorials on youtube, search for some audio cable soldering tutorials, it's the same principles.

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Old August 20th, 2009, 11:09   #23
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- Get a good hot soldering gun/stick (55W+). The hotter it gets, the less time you need to melt the solder (the items you are soldering can absorb a lot of heat if you heat slowly...and it's not good for batteries). Turn it down inbetween things if you need to fiddle with stuff for a little bit (helps with oxidation/scaling). A wet sponge is good for cleaning off extra solder from the tip...I use a wet cotton rag balled up and just swipe the tip when I'm done a joint.

- When doing exposed connectors (like DEANS)...I've gotten into the habit of doing one wire (tin connector, cut/strip/tin wire, position shrink wrap, solder connection)...then doing the other one. Pretty much dummy proof so you can short the battery.

- also, before I do the other wire, I'll position the shrink wrap of the first wired and shrink it into place....that way, even if you slip or happen to touch the bridge the connection with tip of the soldering gun, you probably won't short anything.

- tin both the wire/connector separately...then melt them together. Too little is no good...but you don't need blobs of solder though.

- as long as you're not going to short anything (i.e. do one at a time, protected by shrink wrap), you can file the joint a little after you're done if you have any spikes/bumps that will cut through the shrink wrap.

- using the other end of the connector is a good tip

- if it's not working well...you can always stop, regroup and try again before you start melting stuff (i.e. shielding, connector bodies).

Get extra stuff (wire/connectors/shrink wrap)...practice making a couple for charger extensions, size converters (i.e. DEANS to Large, Large to small...really handy for emergency situations at games), etc... By the time you're done those, you'll be more than ready to do up your gun.

Best of luck.

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Old August 20th, 2009, 16:10   #24
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Hey thanks for all the tips Tys! When you say "shorting" do you mean that the black wire shouldnt be touching the red wire?

Also, when i prepare the wires to be tinned, how do I only cut the sheath of the wire without the wire itself??

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- Get a good hot soldering gun/stick (55W+). The hotter it gets, the less time you need to melt the solder (the items you are soldering can absorb a lot of heat if you heat slowly...and it's not good for batteries). Turn it down inbetween things if you need to fiddle with stuff for a little bit (helps with oxidation/scaling). A wet sponge is good for cleaning off extra solder from the tip...I use a wet cotton rag balled up and just swipe the tip when I'm done a joint.

- When doing exposed connectors (like DEANS)...I've gotten into the habit of doing one wire (tin connector, cut/strip/tin wire, position shrink wrap, solder connection)...then doing the other one. Pretty much dummy proof so you can short the battery.

- also, before I do the other wire, I'll position the shrink wrap of the first wired and shrink it into place....that way, even if you slip or happen to touch the bridge the connection with tip of the soldering gun, you probably won't short anything.

- tin both the wire/connector separately...then melt them together. Too little is no good...but you don't need blobs of solder though.

- as long as you're not going to short anything (i.e. do one at a time, protected by shrink wrap), you can file the joint a little after you're done if you have any spikes/bumps that will cut through the shrink wrap.

- using the other end of the connector is a good tip

- if it's not working well...you can always stop, regroup and try again before you start melting stuff (i.e. shielding, connector bodies).

Get extra stuff (wire/connectors/shrink wrap)...practice making a couple for charger extensions, size converters (i.e. DEANS to Large, Large to small...really handy for emergency situations at games), etc... By the time you're done those, you'll be more than ready to do up your gun.

Best of luck.

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Old August 20th, 2009, 16:31   #25
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http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-solder/

Great site.

with a simple job like that you really have absoloutley nothing to worry about, it's very basic. Just expect to burn yourself alot. I know I did as a self taught kid back in grade 4 or 5 but it teaches you to not get complacent lol.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 16:41   #26
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Yeah....for the battery...doesn't hurt the gun side. But for the battery side...it's not good. Ruined a $100 PTW battery because I was mucking about late at night and shorted the pack. You cannot move faster than electricity...so take steps to insure you don't make a mistake.

Get a good pair of wire strippers.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 17:02   #27
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Yeah....for the battery...doesn't hurt the gun side. But for the battery side...it's not good. Ruined a $100 PTW battery because I was mucking about late at night and shorted the pack. You cannot move faster than electricity...so take steps to insure you don't make a mistake.

Get a good pair of wire strippers.
Good point, a good work around (as I'm sure you know now) is to tape up or shrink wrap any open connections.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 19:24   #28
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Good point, a good work around (as I'm sure you know now) is to tape up or shrink wrap any open connections.
I just avoid stripping the insulation on both sides prior to having one side soldered to the connector.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 12:31   #29
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Thanks guys just ordered 20; two sets. I've been looking at these connectors for a while and man have they always been expensive. Now I have enough to convert all my collection for $12 and make my own conversion connectors Woot!
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Old August 21st, 2009, 15:19   #30
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okay guys, im going to order some deans from http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10788 and grab and soldering iron from home depot this weekend. So i just want to confirm, male connector on the GUN, female connector on the BATTERY and male connector on the CHARGER? Does that sound about right??
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