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Old August 7th, 2009, 14:52   #1
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Mentorship of New Players

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Seeing how Brian's thread has tapered off into a few different topics but the one most important at the moment is mentorship or indoctrination. I think a thread about mentorship should be created. Although this happened last time before the clear guns came out, now the clear guns are everywhere meaning more new players have come, so what to do?

Now on one condition!

Constructive comments please! Please don't waste time arguing back and forth if Mentorship or Indoctrination is needed, the fact is it is NEEDED in certain places. Be a regular at Defcon or TTAC where most new players usually start out and you will see that

- Most new players are not going to be reading the FAQs fully
- They will not always be fully geared up at games. So what do you do?
- Unknown random people joining games, what do you do?
- Most new players have no clue the different sources to get new gear, guns and accessories
- People not from ASC joining games

(FR games and other venues usually have vet players so I exclude it for now)
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Old August 7th, 2009, 14:52   #2
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Helpful Tips/Suggestions/Systems

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- Brian's ATQ Lessons in Downtown Toronto, Ontario
Teaches new players about Airsoft such as (What to do, where to get stuff, how to behave, and more)

- One newbie - One Experienced player (Pair up)

Suggestions
- Age verfiers should perhaps give a little speech about ASC and try to indoctrinate them on the spot instead of just saying "Hello wheres your ID and name okay bye"

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I'll add more to the list
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Old August 7th, 2009, 14:53   #3
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You know what? I volunteer to take on a newbie from the GTA who would like to be active/involved and get him set up.

I suggest other people follow the lead. One newbie, one player. Get them set up and comfortable. Attend a few games together. That sort of thing.
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Old August 7th, 2009, 14:59   #4
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Mentorship directly on ASC would be good too, I'd be up for that.
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Old August 7th, 2009, 15:02   #5
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Ill Pair up i need help, and ill do anything to learn.
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Old August 7th, 2009, 15:03   #6
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Mentorship directly on ASC would be good too, I'd be up for that.
Thats the thing though how do we do that?

Its really easy to do it in games and face to face interaction. But online when most new players don't fully read the FAQs, what do we do?

One thing I like is that comic about ASC and you, that should be stickied somewhere
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Old August 7th, 2009, 15:05   #7
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I volunteer to mentor these 2 noobs:

ShelledPants
cbcsteve

Both can't drink worth a shit! But
Steve does a funny Arnie impression
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Old August 7th, 2009, 15:10   #8
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Basically, asign new people who want direction to a more experienced player willing to donate his time. It won't replace actual face to face interaction in the field, but I see it as a first step before even getting there.

One on one vulgarisation of the FAQs would also allow them to actual understand stuff, instead of reading it sideways and making their own half-assed interpretation of the subject.

Directions to verifiers, mentoring on gear, general primers that sort of stuff.

I also have been putting off a study of average price points of guns (the real ones, not G&G shenanigans).
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What I was originally getting at was meeting with the person, having lunch, answering all the questions I can, take them out to a game or two and show them the ropes. I'd also be available on ASC/MSN for them to ask questions until they are comfortable and able to float, so to speak.

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Basically, asign new people who want direction to a more experienced player willing to donate his time. It won't replace actual face to face interaction in the field, but I see it as a first step before even getting there.

One on one vulgarisation of the FAQs would also allow them to actual understand stuff, instead of reading it sideways and making their own half-assed interpretation of the subject.

Directions to verifiers, mentoring on gear, general primers that sort of stuff.

I also have been putting off a study of average price points of guns (the real ones, not G&G shenanigans).
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What I was originally getting at was meeting with the person, having lunch, answering all the questions I can, take them out to a game or two and show them the ropes. I'd also be available on ASC/MSN for them to ask questions until they are comfortable and able to float, so to speak.
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I've managed to do some good mentoring thru MSN if the persons are willing to learn. It's true that doing it face to face is the most effective way to do it but if that part is done it's gonna help a lot more than if they get nothing at all.
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What I was originally getting at was meeting with the person, having lunch, answering all the questions I can, take them out to a game or two and show them the ropes. I'd also be available on ASC/MSN for them to ask questions until they are comfortable and able to float, so to speak.
Tom...that's a little weird...

Whatever you do with ropes/watersports on your dates is up to you....you must have this forum mixed up with another...
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Tom...that's a little weird...

Whatever you do with ropes/watersports on your dates is up to you....you must have this forum mixed up with another...
I'd teach them the importance of full face masks in CQB... :P
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Old August 7th, 2009, 15:27   #15
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The best mentoring I've seen/been involved in are the "Noob Days" that the Manitoba boys put on. Nothing like a group of veteran players taking 20 or 30 noobs and answering all their questions at once, letting them try all the guns at once, and then going out and playing in a safe and monitored environment with your mentors.

I support this initiative.

I also think "Mentors" need a tag, just like the Age Verification tag.
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