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Old August 5th, 2009, 16:52   #16
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I love it, cant wait to get them ALLLLLLL
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Old August 5th, 2009, 20:20   #17
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I've been having some fun noodling around with new ideas. The assembly line for the Tornado grenade is working a lot more smoothly now (took a bloody year to work out A LOT of bugs) so I finally get to play in the shop a little more.

I always like to have a few new doodads on the cook because product design is a long process where I go down a lot of blind design threads, basically I bumble around a bunch like an ant meandering towards a crumb. Convoluted crooked path full of dead end turnarounds and loops. Eventually I get to the end and a proof of concept works. I start to work out a lot of bugs and usage problems and clean things up. Product design for me is accumulating a lot of "know how NOT" and finally cleaning up a tiny chip of gold at the bottom which is a tiny bit of "know how". Sometimes I just give up and abandon a product work because there's either no product (no interesting potential or it's just plain dangerous) or I find the product completely impractical. I dump about half of my product ideas for either of the two reasons. A further chuck of the remaining ideas get backburnered because they're either not as interesting as the others, or they've got such long work ahead that I decide to chase something closer to completion.

R&D is a long road for me!
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Old August 5th, 2009, 20:31   #18
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Will the 203 shell have it's own "base", use another shell for propulsion, or be... caseless?
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Old August 5th, 2009, 20:34   #19
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A launchable fucking GRENADE?

My god Carl, my god.
you plull the words out of my mouth!!!! SWEET a launchable nade!!!
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Old August 5th, 2009, 20:46   #20
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My demolitions role is getting much more boner inspiring.
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Old August 5th, 2009, 21:12   #21
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Holy Christ Carl... I need a tissue.
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Old August 6th, 2009, 12:12   #22
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Will the 203 shell have it's own "base", use another shell for propulsion, or be... caseless?
The 203 round will be optimally used with a custom 40mm driver cartridge. It will telescope inside the hollow skirt at the back of the projectile for a total package length around 5". You can also muzzle load the projectile with a bb blasting Moscart type driver, but you'll have to load two items with each shot and you'll lose some barrel length.

I wish I could have integrated the launch capability in the projectile, but I'm trying to keep the launch weight down for safety reasons. Also, an integral driver and shell would increase the total complexity of the system (simpler to have separate modules) so you'll have to dump the driver charge into a dump pouch, but it'll be a stubby cartridge that would look similar to a real grenade hull which is kind of neat.
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Old August 6th, 2009, 14:07   #23
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i might hold off buying a standard tornado grenade and wait until the impact one comes out. i also like the idea of the trip mine. so long as they come in FDE as well im buying and i cant wait to use them in a game
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Old August 6th, 2009, 14:35   #24
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Sweet!!! Excellent job Carl.
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Old August 6th, 2009, 23:13   #25
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a bouncing betty!? sweeeeeet. . . . .
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Old August 6th, 2009, 23:14   #26
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Old August 6th, 2009, 23:23   #27
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i was just in japan and visited some airsoft shops in Tokyo. Whenever I said I was Canadian the first thing that popped to their mind was AI Tornados. They seem to like it quite a bit.
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Old August 7th, 2009, 23:19   #28
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R&D is a long road for me!

And we appreciate every step you take on it. That was an amazing demo, and I gotta say....I'm almost looking forward to triggering a bouncing betty/tornado on the field just to see the grin on the face of whoever put it there.
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Old August 8th, 2009, 00:26   #29
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Dear god, I knew I bought that 203 for a reason.
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Old August 8th, 2009, 00:33   #30
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The trip mine will be wonderful

I thank you again Carl for the brilliant concepts brought to and soon to brought to fruition.
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