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Old June 6th, 2009, 21:20   #1
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Hello, I am new to airsoft and I was looking for a good starter gun. I have narrowed it down to :

Echo 1 M8A3
JG M4 S -System
Echo 1 ER - 25K

(Order is relevant to intrest)

Unfortunately, I cannot find ANY sites that sell/ship to Canada that sell Echo 1's. I was wondering if there is a certain reason for this, and what one would you guys recommend? It would really be helpful

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Old June 6th, 2009, 21:30   #2
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their internals are nearly identical... only the SR25 has a slightly modified version of the V2
pick the one that you think looks the nicest
also echo 1 has additional quality control over JG
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Old June 6th, 2009, 21:41   #3
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Thanks for the fast response
I will probably go with the ER -25K, It looks more ergonomic and stylish.
Do you hae any idea where these would be available in Canada? Thanks for the help.

Edit: Is it named the SR 25, or the ER? The Echo1 website says ER.
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Old June 6th, 2009, 21:45   #4
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The real gun is called a SR-25, Echo 1 calls it whatever they want.

As for finding guns in Canada, if your over 18, you will need to meet with a local volunteer for this website to verrify that you are in fact 18+. Once your age verrified you will have access to this sites online classifieds. Thats really the only way to get an echo-1 in Canada.

Don't try to ship one in from outside of Canada, it will be stopped at the border.
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Old June 6th, 2009, 22:08   #5
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Ok thanks. But as you can see... I am not verified ... yet
IS the gun I am looking for even in the classifieds? Is there a way to see what is in the classifieds without being able to purchase? And thanks a lot, you are being a big help

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Is there a way to see what is in the classifieds without being able to purchase?
No, that would defeat the purpose

Haven't seen an Echo1 SR-25 in Canada. Lots of M4's.
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Ok thanks. But as you can see... I am not age verified ... yet
IS the gun I am looking for even in the classifieds? Is there a way to see what is in the classifieds without being able to purchase? And thanks a lot, you are being a big help
You can't view the classifieds without being AV'd.

I don't remember seeing a JG SR-25 (though SR-25's of other makes do sometimes show up). But I will say that if you really want that particular model someone can probably get it for you once you're AV'd.
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Old June 6th, 2009, 22:17   #8
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Ok thanks a lot guys, but I have one more question (for now... :P)
Would you recomend the ER 25K or the M8A3 over the M4? The only upgrades I would likely get are a bipod, scope, and maybe a barrel extension. I am leaning towards the ER because of its looks, its rails, and its included barrel extension. It is also 400 FPS out of the box.
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Old June 6th, 2009, 22:20   #9
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They're both armalites. It's personal preference. That's it.
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Well, FPS means jack shit. And 400 FPS in a stock V2 mechbox probably won't last too long without some additional parts.

Other than that, it mainly comes down to which gun you like better.
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Old June 6th, 2009, 22:23   #11
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So both suck without upgrades? O.o

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Old June 6th, 2009, 22:25   #12
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also be aware that the sr25 uses a bigger v2 mechbox and bigger mags. some internal parts on the sr25 are different than a regular v2 mechbox and can be tough to find them...
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Old June 6th, 2009, 22:26   #13
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No.. interally, they're both the same without upgrades.

You'll notice how higher-end guns don't shoot 400fps stock. There's a reason for that. Companies that make low-end guns know n00bs jump all over FPS.. so they'll make a gun and stick in a really powerful spring the gun was never designed to take and advertise "400+ FPS".

Armalites use a Version 2 mechbox (SR-25 uses a modified V2). The version 2 mechbox has some weakpoints, and without certain upgrades or a reinforced shell, repeatedly shooting at 400FPS will break it.
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Old June 6th, 2009, 22:28   #14
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So basically stronger gearbox / lighter spring?
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Old June 6th, 2009, 22:31   #15
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Yea, that would be a good idea.

It depends how you play too. The SR-25 is a DMR (designated marksman rifle). If you use it in semi-auto mostly I doubt you'd run into any issues. Of course, if you bought one made by G&P or Classic Army, you wouldn't have this issue at all (and it would be full metal to boot!)
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