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Old May 14th, 2009, 01:16   #1
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Need a few tips from your own experience

Hello, I've been looking into the sport of airsoft for quite some time now. I'm not yet 18, but turning 18 this september and hope to get verified when I am able to.

Just wondering though, since I'm not a dedicated hardcore airsoft fan, I'm wondering if you guys think getting the L96 wouldn't be too bad of a choice just for playing around in my backyard (My backyard is enclosed, so there's no chance of anyone seeing me or anything, it's pretty big as well)?

I just intend when I am 18 to play with maybe 4-5 friends in backyard skirmishes with no real rules or anything like MILSIM.

I love accuracy more than anything, and am looking for a sniper rifle with a budget of 200 bucks at most.

I saw this video on youtube by airsoftreports
YouTube - Airsoft Reports Quality Review- WELL L96 Sniper Rifle

It seems like something that'd be worth the money, considering how I intend to play airsoft.

I've of course heard from any a posters about advice on how a sniper rifle should not be a first choice for a newbie, but is that only in regards to people who plan to become a completely dedicated player? Do you guys think that for the type of player I intend to become, that a sniper rifle would be an alright choice (because I love sniper rifles) for just playing with some friends?

Thanks for the advice.
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Old May 14th, 2009, 01:32   #2
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The Well rifles are crap nothing more to say.

No don't get a sniper rifle. It's not very fun at all. I mean personally me as a player I'm more of a run and gun assault kind of guy and 99% of players I know are. Nothing wrong with that. The closest I'd actually get to sniping would probably be as a DMR that's it.

Not only that to get your rifle up to ~400 FPS imposes a lot of restrictions on you such as MED's and having to be a trusted player/taken a "sniper safety" course offered by some clubs.

Fill in your profile so we know what general area you live in (doesn't have to be like NW Calgary, AB or anything just Calgary or Alberta will suffice).

If you're seriously waiting then just wait some more cause you'll be kicking yourself later for wasting money on a crap gun when there are much better available once you're verified. Plus you can work and actually afford it (plus school if you're going)....
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Old May 14th, 2009, 01:35   #3
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If you want to do backyard plinking, it's actually a very nice gun and very fun to use, but I soon got bored of backyard plinking, and sold it for a CA. Reason for this is, it has a rediculous fps, around 460ish, which will require that you be able to recongize a minimum engagement distances, all the while this will be no more accurate than a normal AEG, because despite it being slightly more accurate shot for shot, they can fire 10BBs while you fire 1.
Get out to a game when you turn 18, borrow a gun, handle a few different guns, and choose your favorite.
a sniper rifle will take around $500+ in mods alone to be gamable, and this gun is harder to find parts for... Slightly.
if you just want to plink in your backyard, as in shooting targets, this is pretty fun. But for any kind of actual skirmishes... don't do it, it'll be more of a headache than anything.
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Old May 14th, 2009, 11:49   #4
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How big is your backyard? If it is not on an acreage the gun is not safe at those engagements distances
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Old May 14th, 2009, 11:50   #5
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I just intend when I am 18 to play with maybe 4-5 friends in backyard skirmishes with no real rules or anything like MILSIM.
We do not recommend backyard skirmishes. Prying eyes from neighbours or trespassers through your property can result in the police showing up at your doors, and making everyone look bad. Not to mention horrendous safety protocols and no insurance.
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Old May 14th, 2009, 12:25   #6
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If you want to shoot pop cans in the back yard. Go to Canadian Tire and get a pellet gun.

Actually. I go over to a friends house to shoot pop cans and paper targets with his pellet gun (NOTE: Not airsoft, but an actual .177 match grade "wadcutter" pellets). Then I play with the airsoft on the fields.

The ballistics of the pellet gun make it far more accurate for target shooting. You're shooting a pellet vs a "musket ball".

Also note that you cannot play with your pellet or BB guns on an airsoft field. It DOES matter if it's a copper 6mm bb vs a plastic 6mm BB (weight of BB, speed and such).

Save your money especially in these times. You need to pay for school first, then you can spend money on a hobby.
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Old May 14th, 2009, 13:13   #7
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Aside from the backyard blasphemy, your best bet is getting something else. Most people automatically want to be a sniper because in video games the sniper has the most accurate shot, the longest, etc. This is airsoft, keep that in mind. FPS limit difference of an AEG and a bolt-action is about 50, 100 in rare cases. Your range won't be that much more superior, either. Accuracy will be a little better just due to the length of the barrel, but keep in mind that an AEG just has to spray at you, and while spraying adjust his aim to hit you. You have to land the shot within the first 2 or 3 otherwise you're more or less down.

A lot of people start with an AEG to get used to the mechanics of the game. Mainly, the physics of it. Most people that are snipers are dedicated to it, and have spent up to, if not more, than $1,000 upgrading the weapon to bring it to peak performance. Between me and the people I play with, there's only one person with a sniper, and it is an L96. Yes, he does have a slight advantage over us, but he spent a lot of time and money in parts making sure he'd be capable of gaining that advantage. If you're just plinking in your backyard with someone, I'd probably suggest a clearsoft and spraypaint it from Wal-Mart or something. Anything else is probably too pricey just for backyard plinking. Not to mention wal-mart rifles have a drastically reduced FPS (like.. 200FPS), and is much safer than firing something that is nearly 350FPS at that range.
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Old May 14th, 2009, 13:17   #8
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For what you are asking you don't need advise from people on this site. For your intent and purposes just get whatever you feel you would like.
If you do want a sniper rifle I hope it is a REALLY big back yard (and hopefully don't have any neighbours for at least 500m for safety purposes) because otherwise one of your friends will be able to demolish you if they have even just a $50 fully auto crosman mini clearsoft gun from Canadian tire.
I'd even just suggest getting a Kraken for $150, you can get a rail and put a scope on it and shoot semi but when you get bored of sniping (believe me this can happen especially with small skirmishes of 4-5 people) you have the option of going fully auto.
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Old May 14th, 2009, 13:40   #9
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Contrary to some opinion the clone L96 that are available are worth the money you pay, around $320ish with a decent scope, and it shoots over 400fps with .20bb. However this is not enough of an advantage over an AEG to make it worth it, AEG's have a single fire mode, you can mount a scope and turn an AEG into a "sniper rifle". I've spent an additional $350ish on parts to make my L96 into what I would consider a relevant sniper rifle, and there are game restrictions on a rifle that shoots "hot".
Save yourself the hassle and money (unless you have lots $$ then go crazy) and pick up a good AEG like a G&G for around $300. The final range's out of the box are pretty much the same, and you'll be good to play any type of game with that.
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Old May 14th, 2009, 14:19   #10
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Thanks for all the advice guys. I've changed my mind. Does anyone here know of any G36C models that are good to go right out of the box in stock form?

Besides sniper rifles, I also really dig the G36C.

And yeah, I know I should save my money for school, but I'm looking to try airsoft for the first time as well (hoping to start next summer when I'm off school again). Of course I won't be going all in to it yet because that'd be very expensive.

Also, yeah I'll heed your guys' advice and refrain from trying anything in my backyard, always best to be cautious rather than regretful. I live in Edmonton, AB. Does anyone know of any fields or good places to play? Or will I have to travel out of Edmonton to get a game going? At my age I probably wouldn't be ready for that yet with school and everything.

Thanks for the help guys.
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Old May 14th, 2009, 14:23   #11
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Contrary to some opinion the clone L96 that are available are worth the money you pay, around $320ish with a decent scope, and it shoots over 400fps with .20bb. However this is not enough of an advantage over an AEG to make it worth it, AEG's have a single fire mode, you can mount a scope and turn an AEG into a "sniper rifle". I've spent an additional $350ish on parts to make my L96 into what I would consider a relevant sniper rifle, and there are game restrictions on a rifle that shoots "hot".
Save yourself the hassle and money (unless you have lots $$ then go crazy) and pick up a good AEG like a G&G for around $300. The final range's out of the box are pretty much the same, and you'll be good to play any type of game with that.

so you're saying it IS or it ISN'T worth the money, bcuz it really isn't
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Old May 14th, 2009, 17:47   #12
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sign up on edmontonairsoft, Get a CA, JG/echo1, or TM. They are on classfields here or on EAR
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Old May 14th, 2009, 20:22   #13
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Since you have to upgrade a Maruzen ( or other gun that costs twice as much) with the same parts that you upgrade a Well version with (spring,bolt,barrel,hop up) then the original gun is nothing but a shell, you replaced everything with aftermarket. Any sniper rifle you buy HAS to be upgraded to be worth it, may as well start with a "shell" that is several hundred dollars less.
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Old May 14th, 2009, 20:24   #14
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Since you have to upgrade a Maruzen ( or other gun that costs twice as much) with the same parts that you upgrade a Well version with (spring,bolt,barrel,hop up) then the original gun is nothing but a shell, you replaced everything with aftermarket. Any sniper rifle you buy HAS to be upgraded to be worth it, may as well start with a "shell" that is several hundred dollars less.
I disagree, the tolerances of the clones lend themselves to be poor platforms to build on if you're going to spend $1000 in upgrades on it.
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Old May 14th, 2009, 20:31   #15
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total cost not including the gun was less than 400 bucks , everything fit together perfectly. The only original parts are the outer barrel, trigger assembly, and body. Only trouble I've had is sourcing a rubber piston head, then I can run the new spring and piston. You can even swap out the whole cylinder as a complete unit if you are that worried about tolerances.
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