|April 22nd, 2009, 22:47||#1|
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Tactical force TF-11 (mac 11)
Few things before i get started.
capacity: 50 rounds
C02 usage per (1 c02): 2 mags (bursts) 3 mags (single fire wait 3 seconds)
1 1/2 mags (full spray)
Fps: 350 +,- 13 fps (0.2) 400fps ish (.12)
-accurate for its size
-dual wield easily
-sights actualy work!
-bang for your buck!
-realistic size 1:1 scale
-realoading feels like the real deal
-sling mount is anyoing (on that later)
- wastes c02 like winnie the pooh and honey
-seletor switch doesn't click (feels cheap)
-holding it like a pistol is uncomfy for big hands you have to hold it a certain way
staring with what comes with the gun it comes with
-a paper of basic operations
- 1 50 round magazine
- loading tool and hard straw
- the gun (of course)
The gun is clear plastic all exept for the grip, cocking lever, outer barrel, clip mount, mag, sights and saftey switch.
the only metal parts are
-trigger (not sure)
-hard to use sights (hard on the eyes) unless you do a tiny mod (will explain)
the gun is very sturdy overall exept the magazine wobbles aprox 2mm forward
none at all side to side and about 5mm up/down. Though thats kind of noticeable when not playing. Shaking the gun the mag moving is hard to notice.
Very light gun without mag (weight of a empty glass) the mag alone weights about 2 cans of pop, not coke pepsi.
the compact size of the gun is incredible for its power. its length is about the size of your wrist to the middle finger.
the sight system consists of a tiny peep hole with the classic mac 11 sights though the half circle cocking lever. When shooting the lever does not get in the way of ur aiming due to blow back. the sights are also hard to use in dim light but this mod may make it easyer. get the most brightest sharpie at your desposal mine is silver. Carefully coular the line of the sight. Doing that makes aiming more easy on the eyes. You can also use a bright sharpie to make a circle around the peep hole so your eyes can adjust more easyily
The blow back system gives a nice tiny kick, enough to say damn! Its very loud wich may be good or bad
to load the gun you must insert the c02, put mag in the gun. Pull back the cocking lever (very fun makes a nice noise). unleash saftey and shoot!
taking the gun out of saftey is kind of a pain seeing as you cannot use the finger thats on the trigger but having to use your other hand to switch it off and on.
performance wise this gun really dose do wonders especialy against stock aeg's making it an exellent side arm.
its affective range hitting a man size target without cover is about 80ft. if the target is under cover say like a tree you can hit something the size or a ruler sticking out within your next few shots *I tried it!*
using 0.12 the bb's shoot very hard and fast straight for 50 ft and quickly curve downward. Though i woudn't reccomend 0.12's it might prove useful using the glow in the dark 0.12's in very tight close quarters combat area's mostly buildings.
I never used any ammo heavyer than 0.2's so if someone has this gun and compare it with heaver ammo that would be great.
If you haven't noticed by now this gun is very very accurate at its affective range. not using the sights and eye aiming you can still easily hit a tree with every bullet at 80ft. using the sights it nearly doubles in accuracy, every bb stayed where the line was or within the half circle before the line sight.
if your new and want a nice starter gun i highly reccomend it because its near low maintnence and performance.
I aquired this gun at cabellas and i must say there shipping wasn't on time. Ording the gun on the 3rd it came to my door today (april 22) if your ordering from them i would reccomend xpress shipping (it pays for itself) and if your like me i would rather pony up the extra 10ish$ to get it within 2 days then waiting about 12+ bussness days.
If i missed anything or something post something and ill gladfully answer it
p.s-my anti flame suite is on!!
Last edited by NoGear; April 22nd, 2009 at 23:02..
|April 25th, 2009, 17:02||#7|
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hay crunch dose heaver bb's travel farther or are they just accurate
i tried .12's and they go 50 ft then plump down at like 70 degrees\
tried 0.2's and they went 80 ft then traveled down at the same rate just not as fast.
so have you tried heaver bb's and do they seem to stay in flight for a farther range lets say 100ft
|April 25th, 2009, 17:55||#8|
The TF11's hopup is fixed and set for .2. They'll get you the best effective range of about 75-ish feet as you've observed. .25 will make the gun more accurate at short ranges, but the BBs will drop at about 50 feet or so. So for a secondary in CQB where all your engagements are short range, .25 are good. Otherwise, I'd suggest sticking with .2.
|April 25th, 2009, 19:00||#9|
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thanks man will do that. so to increase range with .2's i would also need to keep the ammo as dry as possible for increase fricktion
im going to do a few tests tomarrow on the difference between dry ammo and greasy ammo (0.2)
|June 12th, 2009, 00:15||#11|
Yes, Maruzen mags work.
There's my review of the TF-11 (same, but all black instead). On page 2, there's the post confirming that the Maruzen mags work.
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|June 12th, 2009, 10:52||#12|
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: St.John's, NL
How do they run on propane? I read the thing about the fps actually INCREASING for one person, Doesn't make much sense to me. How does it cycle on propane? Is their any comparison video's our there?
|June 12th, 2009, 12:48||#13|
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: notre dame des prairies /quebec
it cycles exactly the same as with co2 (mabe even a little harder) i might do a video later in the day...
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|August 4th, 2009, 14:09||#14|
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Brandon Manitoba
Just got one of these in today. Pretty damn happy with it. too.
Just a short reveiw before I get into anything in depth:
The gun came in a vaccuum sealed plastic, had some pretty spiffy cover art and the such. Though the main interest was the gun... Don't expect to peel the plastic apart on this gun, its pretty damn thick, so you'll need to cut through it.
Once I got the gun out, i pulled it out of the plastic. the gun isnt particularly heavy by itself. Most of the weight comes from the bolt of the weapon. which is pretty nice when locked back. the gun isnt to front or back heavy, its weighted perfectly where it should be. And with the magazine loaded and inserted... Even moreso.
Since I don't have any bbs but .36's for my broken m24. I decided to load it up and let rip. The gun has a pretty good kick, just enough to throw off your aim though, so be sure find a comfortable way to grip and brace the thing. The gun is only innacurate due to the sporradic recoil from it. I was able to shoot a good distance accuratly with shooting on semi.
Then again, i was using .36s so it would be particularly hard to miss with those, Haha, it worked pretty damn well too!
After that, I decided to give it another go with .12gram bb's. I know they're frowned apon. but its either that, or wasting fifty more expensive bb's. and all I can say is that its really, really not worth it in any sense. The gun will not be able to hit ANYTHING with it. i'm not sure whats going on, but the bb's just curve in every direction imaginable. Kinda fun to watch until you realize you're potentially damaging your gun with them.
As for firing? The gun, as everyone knows fires like a beast. A near endless stream of bb's in the direction you're aiming at... The sights are actually pretty good for this provided you just use them... as reference to what you're aiming to. Theres no need to look through the peephole in the rear sight, Just look over it and use the bolts cut out area as the 'rear sight' instead. the bb's spread nicely within the side posts of the front sight.
I'm gonna do a video reveiw of this weapon in a week or two. Hope my short reveiw here helped!
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|December 2nd, 2009, 03:59||#15|
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Montreaaalll...- Laval actually.
***Posted in other threads as well***
I realize this is an old thread, but hopefully someone will be able to help me out. Just the same, I'm going to post this question in the two other TF11 Reviews I've found.
Could someone provide a list of all of the Compatible Magazines for the TF11? I'm really interested in getting one, but I won't if it will cost me 40-50 bucks a mag. At the moment, the only other mags I know that work are the Maruzen Propane mags. Are there any others? KSC, KWA, HFC, WELL, WE, etc.? As well, were would be the best places to get them? (I know EhobbyAsia, RSOV, KHM would probably be some of the cheapest places).
I suppose it's also worth mentioning that I'm going through all of this trouble not only to save a buck or two, but to try and get a good looking mag, without that retarded little nob on the end.
Thanks for any help I get in this, and I'm sure there's at least one other person out there scratching their head, pouring over Googled Threads looking for answers to this question
Oh, and before anybody says it, I should be getting AV'd this weekend -_-
Edit: I read somewhere that the TF11 is TM compatible, is this true?
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