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Old April 16th, 2009, 18:08   #1
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just getting started - question about events

hey all! great forum here - stumbling across this actually peaked my interest, and subsequent purchase of my first AEG.. (i've had a TM spring handgun for years now, just for dickin' around with targets)

my question.. i am VERY curious how the games work? teams? does one "die" when hit? is getting hit arguable (tiny white bb in a field of people running around, hard to see/verify)? do you limit ammo mags to realistic amounts, instead of the 60 bb's etc?

i'd be curious to check one out - are they keen on spectators?

also, i've been going through the noob stickies - very helpful. is there any kind of glossary i can read up on? most things i understand - but "brushings" and some of the part names go way over my head at the moment.

anyway, some info would be appreciated. in my time between jobs i try to read as much as i can on here.

thanks!
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Old April 16th, 2009, 18:17   #2
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mechbox.com is a good place to see the inner workings of the gearbox, what makes AEGs shoot.

Games love having spectators out if they are coming out of interest in joining the community. Good wait to get age verified too!

Edit: Assuming you are above 18. Even if you aren't, most places will still be happy to have you come out and spectate and take a look at things and ask questions. If you are 18, a lot of people would even be willing to let you try out their AEGs and whatnot. And if an age verifier is there, then you're set!
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Old April 16th, 2009, 19:38   #3
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welcome to ASC!! when gettin hit with a bb they use the hounor system its more of a trust thing. If people don't call there hits a ref nearby may notice and take charge.

some games that involve real ammo (actual ammount for a gun in ur clip) so that means realoading after 30 bbs depending on your gun. once again trust is an issue one this as anyone can cheat but its not as fun when there realoading properly and ur still shooting 100 bbs.

try and go to a game near you and watch and see how they play the game it might be pretty fun (hell it prob is)
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Old April 16th, 2009, 19:52   #4
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hey all! great forum here - stumbling across this actually peaked my interest, and subsequent purchase of my first AEG.. (i've had a TM spring handgun for years now, just for dickin' around with targets)

my question.. i am VERY curious how the games work? teams? does one "die" when hit? is getting hit arguable (tiny white bb in a field of people running around, hard to see/verify)? do you limit ammo mags to realistic amounts, instead of the 60 bb's etc?

i'd be curious to check one out - are they keen on spectators?

also, i've been going through the noob stickies - very helpful. is there any kind of glossary i can read up on? most things i understand - but "brushings" and some of the part names go way over my head at the moment.

anyway, some info would be appreciated. in my time between jobs i try to read as much as i can on here.

thanks!
Welcome and congrats on the new gun.

When you get hit, you're out/dead. We play with an honour system that relies on both parties to be honest and take a hit/call someone hit regardless who's right. Some hits are somewhat arguable but it's not really worth the time spent on it. I've had my moments where I just got into position and I feel a fly or something on my leg. I look down and I'm being lit up with BB's.

Some games are milsim and have ammo caps on a point system, but all games are different.

You are welcome to come check out a game. There are several big games over the next few weeks. Some are milsim and others are theme based. I can't speak for the others, but you'd be more than welcome to come check out Salvation. If you are interested in taking pictures and or video, you can be out on the field almost the entire time. Let me know and we'll make arrangements.

If you're 18+ you should consider getting age verified at an event and molest some high end toys. If you ask, most people will let you get a feel for them. Some might even let you shoot some on the field too. Great way to get your feet wet in airsoft by talking to people at a game.

brushings are bushings. little round metal bits that keep the gears lined up and away from the mechbox. But don't worry too much about that just yet.
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Old April 16th, 2009, 19:55   #5
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Welcome and congrats on the new gun.

When you get hit, you're out/dead. We play with an honour system that relies on both parties to be honest and take a hit/call someone hit regardless who's right. Some hits are somewhat arguable but it's not really worth the time spent on it. I've had my moments where I just got into position and I feel a fly or something on my leg. I look down and I'm being lit up with BB's.

Some games are milsim and have ammo caps on a point system, but all games are different.

You are welcome to come check out a game. There are several big games over the next few weeks. Some are milsim and others are theme based. I can't speak for the others, but you'd be more than welcome to come check out Salvation. If you are interested in taking pictures and or video, you can be out on the field almost the entire time. Let me know and we'll make arrangements.

If you're 18+ you should consider getting age verified at an event and molest some high end toys. If you ask, most people will let you get a feel for them. Some might even let you shoot some on the field too. Great way to get your feet wet in airsoft by talking to people at a game.

brushings are bushings. little round metal bits that keep the gears lined up and away from the mechbox. But don't worry too much about that just yet.

i would like to do that one day take video etc in bc
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Old April 17th, 2009, 01:39   #6
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Welcome and congrats on the new gun.

When you get hit, you're out/dead. We play with an honour system that relies on both parties to be honest and take a hit/call someone hit regardless who's right. Some hits are somewhat arguable but it's not really worth the time spent on it. I've had my moments where I just got into position and I feel a fly or something on my leg. I look down and I'm being lit up with BB's.

Some games are milsim and have ammo caps on a point system, but all games are different.

You are welcome to come check out a game. There are several big games over the next few weeks. Some are milsim and others are theme based. I can't speak for the others, but you'd be more than welcome to come check out Salvation. If you are interested in taking pictures and or video, you can be out on the field almost the entire time. Let me know and we'll make arrangements.

If you're 18+ you should consider getting age verified at an event and molest some high end toys. If you ask, most people will let you get a feel for them. Some might even let you shoot some on the field too. Great way to get your feet wet in airsoft by talking to people at a game.

brushings are bushings. little round metal bits that keep the gears lined up and away from the mechbox. But don't worry too much about that just yet.
actually i'm a photographer by trade so that could be fun to come out and learn and take pics for everyone.. (my stuffs here if yr curious http://www.eroder.com)

i see that games in kitchener.. not too far, but i have no car atm..

picking up my rifle tomorrow!

so - regarding the glossary.. there's no thread like that so i don't have to bug everyone everytime someone mentions a part?

thanks again!
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Old April 17th, 2009, 01:56   #7
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Get some cheap filters that you can risk losing just in case a wild BB goes in your direction.

As for games there are regional and city "clubs" and then teams within those clubs. Some have different goals (eg. PMC simulation, just having fun on a Friday night, sort of serious, Military simulation with ranks and "training" and all etc.) but you don't really need to join a "team" just be a part of the club.

When getting hit we play on honour system, if you're found to be cheating or purposely not calling hits you will not be welcome to future games. It's fine to not call once in a while but err on the safe side and call yourself out.

Actually I was thinking about it after one game and I realized I wasn't calling some of my hits that day in some of the firefights I was in. I didn't feel anything or hear anything hitting my gear but I saw them coming and did the "matrix" thing (they were firing .28's at me so going fairly "slow"). I'm sure at least one hit me but I didn't call myself out because I didn't hear/feel anything. That's fine, I'll know better next time but knowingly getting hit and shrugging them (rubbing your leg when your leg got hit) is a whole different story and if you do that you'll be asked to leave and never come back again.

As for ammo limits there are milsim games which are usually restricted to "real-cap" or low cap (comparable capacity to real steel counterpart eg. P90 = 50 rounds, M4 = 30 rounds etc...). Sometimes they will allow you to run mid caps with a limit to how many you can carry, eg. 3 x mid-caps of 68 rounds and unlimited low caps. As for regular skirmishes anything goes really. Hi-caps are generally frowned upon though, they "rattle" (because it's a "BB well" that uses a wheel to feed BB's), have unrealistic capacities (eg 400 rounds in a M4 hi-cap) and you have to wind them every certain number of shots. A better investment might be getting some mid caps and low caps, usually guns will come with 1 hi-cap and that's fine, really if you're using more than 1 hi-cap in a short 30 min skirmish then there's something wrong and you should go play paintball .

Spectators are always welcome, especially if you have a camera. Bring a PB mask or sealed ballistics to the field (depending on rules governing eye protection) and a safety vest.

As for getting a ride. There's usually a "carpool" section where you can bum rides off other people in return for some gas money.
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Old April 17th, 2009, 09:04   #8
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worst is when you reach to scratch/slap a mosquito, some yells "hey, I got you!" lol.
I usually take those hits and call out but there are always people who get all pissed because you take a few seconds to process it before you call hit/out.

winterMOO, PM me. We can work something out if you want to come. L473ncy is right. If you bring a DSLR camera, make sure you use a cheap filter. It's rare that a stray BB will contact you but it's worth the $5 for protection. Otherwise, most pocket digital P&S cameras fair well out there.
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Old April 17th, 2009, 09:22   #9
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@ winterMOO here is a video that gives a decent overview of skirmishing (ignore some of the American propaganda, AirSoft started in Japan NOT in the USA) YouTube - Airsoft Etiquette (Single Stream)
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Old April 17th, 2009, 09:59   #10
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I think the majority of events held don't mind spectators, but sometimes the format of the game or area of operation won't allow for it. Always get permission first from the game organizer before making the trek out.

As for taking pictures and/or video, it's the same thing, get permission first. While most of us don't mind posing for the camera there are a few in the community that would rather not have their image plastered all over the internet (each has their own reasons).

Don't be afraid to ask questions at the field during downtime (before and after games). With most airsofters, once you get them going on the topic it's hard to get them to shut up. Once last note, be mindful of asking permission before handling anyone's weaponry. Simply picking up one without asking is a no-no. Most won't have issue, but again there are some that have put so much money and effort into their builds that it's treated like a newborn and they can be very protective of it.

Hope some of this helps as far as etiquette is concerned. Welcome to the drug...er, I mean, sport known as airsoft.
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