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Old April 13th, 2009, 22:44   #1
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M4A1 comparison

So I'm nearing the point where I could be buying my first gone and I've settled on an M4A1 I just need to decide which brand.

Basically I'm looking at the TM or G&G. I've heard some complaints about the TM internals so I'm wondering if the extra 100$+ for the TM is really worth it.

I'd appreciate any input any of you could provide on this subject.
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Old April 13th, 2009, 22:46   #2
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Yes, it's really worst but why don't you chose CA intead. It tend to be better out of the box than TM and G&G without much of upgrade.Only problem is company just need to control the quality for lemon. TM might need heavy upgrade from internal to external but still if you keep it in stock form, it tend to be use for long period than other gun I have been seen but 290 fps is not right for outdoor game, it's still good for indoor. I wouldn't use stock TM for outdoor though.

It would more help if you can tell us what you plan to do with the gun like indoor or outdoor game or for just only plinking.

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Old April 13th, 2009, 22:46   #3
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Internals for the TM? No, TM is pretty much perfect for internals, they dont shoot as fast as other guns like G&G. But i've heard people using tms and having them last for years. The only complains I had about my TM m16 (Which uses the same receiver type) are how fragile the tabs are (Tabs are what keep the two halves together)
Unless you can get a metal body ASAP, i would go for the G&G
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Old April 13th, 2009, 22:56   #4
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Sorry I should have mentioned. I don't think we have any CQB fields in my area so it will be mostly outdoors.

So am I to be under the impression that G&G and CA perform better right out of the box then TM?

Further down the road I would like to get into gun modding but I imagine I'll have a lot of learning to do first. So how are all of these brands for compatibility, that's why I was staying away from CA I had heard they were less compatible with TM parts then other M4s.
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Old April 13th, 2009, 23:01   #6
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hmm ! Tell me what part that CA is not compatible with TM. The only is different is the hop up, since TM use two piece plastic hop up and CA use the one piece metal hop up.

By the way, Have you ever think about ICS M4A1 ?

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Sorry I should have mentioned. I don't think we have any CQB fields in my area so it will be mostly outdoors.

So am I to be under the impression that G&G and CA perform better right out of the box then TM?

Further down the road I would like to get into gun modding but I imagine I'll have a lot of learning to do first. So how are all of these brands for compatibility, that's why I was staying away from CA I had heard they were less compatible with TM parts then other M4s.
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Old April 13th, 2009, 23:08   #7
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i have a G&P m4 and i could not be happier!
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Are you the guy who drove out to Brooks I was hearing about?

Anyways if you mean performance measured by speed and such yes China clones perform better out of the box since Japan has strict FPS limits on their guns (I believe it was something like 330-350 on .20's).

If you mean by reliability then TM hands down since they are less prone to breaking or so I've heard due to less stress on the internals and higher QC on their products.

I've heard CA used to be dreaded because of the hit or miss quality, but their QC has improved greatly since those days. It's still sometimes hit or miss in terms of lemons and such but they have less lemons going out now.

Are you by any chance in contact with the new Lethbridge team? (They play at coulee runners paintball)
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Anyways if you mean performance measured by speed and such yes China clones perform better out of the box since Japan has strict FPS limits on their guns (I believe it was something like 330-350 on .20's).
The limit is 1 joule.

As for TM internals, they're great. If you want to change FPS, all it takes is a spring swap.
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hmm ! Tell me what part that CA is not compatible with TM.

By the way, Have you ever think about ICS M4A1 ?
I don't know! I've just heard... things! :P

OK shit, so I have no idea which M4 I want. Post opinions!

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Are you the guy who drove out to Brooks I was hearing about?

Are you by any chance in contact with the new Lethbridge team? (They play at coulee runners paintball)
Ya that was probably me. I've talked to a guy from aesir airsoft a bit and I'm gonna try to make it to one of their games soon to have a look around.
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well recently, chinese clones have been getting better and better reviews.

Not dboys tho haha.

JG espeically. I've heard tons of ppl have jg's last for 2 years so far and still shooting great.
But then again, with chiense brands there's always the luck of the draw that it might not work as well as it should, but then again even CA has bad luck at times.

Best is to know the gun shoots well. But for chances, CA is probably best, other than G&P which has really nice bodies.
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DBoys is garbage. Only good thing in them is the... Well I bought a complete mechbox for 40 bucks just so I can get those cheapo XYT gears, and they are poor quality... I mean really poor.
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Old April 13th, 2009, 23:52   #13
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Are you kidding? Get your hands on a Dboys/CYMA(rebranded) AKs-74u, they are AWESOME. ridiculously good out of the box, and have 360-380 fps with .20's. For the thread starter, i would say go for TM, and get a new spring. Aim for 360-380 FPS with .20 's, it seems to be the sweet spot for AEG's.
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I have the CA M15A4 Carbine which is the equivalent of the M4A1. I can't describe how happy I am with the gun.

You can ask almost anyone who owns an CA M15A4 and they will tell you. Quality internals with a metal body, what more can you want? The availability of parts for the CA is an advantage as well.
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Are you kidding? Get your hands on a Dboys/CYMA(rebranded) AKs-74u, they are AWESOME. ridiculously good out of the box, and have 360-380 fps with .20's. For the thread starter, i would say go for TM, and get a new spring. Aim for 360-380 FPS with .20 's, it seems to be the sweet spot for AEG's.
I can vouch for that. I used to have two of them AKS-74 U, At least 20 000 BBs trough them before they got sold and they are the first AEG that never break on me and still the next buyer until now.

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