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Old March 30th, 2009, 20:34   #16
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Except airsoft IS illegal in our country. Well....for Redwolf's purposes anyway, illegal to import. They might not refund you.
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Old March 30th, 2009, 20:39   #17
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Except airsoft IS illegal in our country. Well....for Redwolf's purposes anyway, illegal to import. They might not refund you.
I will send to redwolf a copy of my letter of the border. I think theire no problem because airsoft is not illegal, it's the gun or the metal body... not the gearbox
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Old March 30th, 2009, 21:04   #18
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Except airsoft IS illegal in our country. Well....for Redwolf's purposes anyway, illegal to import. They might not refund you.
If they look at it like that they may state it as illegal, but in reality airsoft isn't illegal in Canada.
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Old March 31st, 2009, 01:08   #19
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I had a mech box seized, I called the number listed on the form and they have a perosn or persons on staff that will investigate the seizure. I had mine released though it took two months.
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 22:35   #20
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I had a mech box seized, I called the number listed on the form and they have a perosn or persons on staff that will investigate the seizure. I had mine released though it took two months.
What is wrote on your letter send by the border? is it a gearbox or a receiver? because I call the border and they say this was a metal receiver and it's not transparent... And I try to contact redwolf and no response...
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 22:46   #21
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If you ordered a Mechabox, chances are that it's a mechabox. AFAIK Systema doesn't make Receivers for regular AEG's (they only make PTW receivers IIRC).

Call up CBSA again and ask them to have someone who is *trained* take a look at it. (Assuming that it's a gearbox and not a receiver).

It could also be a fuckup on Redwolf's part though. Maybe you could go in person and appeal it? I mean all it is, is just a set of gears that spin when a motor spins it. It doesn't house anything at all that could remotely be modified to shoot a bullet.

If they seized it based on the invoice comments then they really need to take a look at it not just say it's a receiver.
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 23:09   #22
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Maybe they seized it based on keyword.

M4 and SR16 are weapon names that will get your parcel flaged for inspection almost automaticly.

That's why, when I import parts, I hask that they don't print certain keywords in the invoice and on the packages. I did that when I imported some M24 parts. I had all the original package removed and had them write toy parts on the papers.
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 23:13   #23
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Hi, i've buy a Systema Complete Mechabox (Gearbox) Turbo Set for SR16-M4 on redwolf airsoft and the canadian border send me a letter saying it's a prohibited weapon or device. But on the letter, it's write that I import a MECHA BOX 8 REPLICA RECEIVER... so what can I do ??
They nailed you with that one. You can thank redwolf for writting that on the package or the CBSA for being idiots.
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Except airsoft IS illegal in our country. Well....for Redwolf's purposes anyway, illegal to import. They might not refund you.
No, TM is illegal (explicit) to import, as are replica firearms devices in accordance to CBSA's definition of a replica. Owning imitation firearms is not. I only point that out because its a point of frequent contention and misunderstanding here.
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 23:25   #25
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No, TM is illegal (explicit) to import, as are replica firearms devices in accordance to CBSA's definition of a replica. Owning imitation firearms is not. I only point that out because its a point of frequent contention and misunderstanding here.
I thought it was all solid coloured bodied guns unless owned prior to 1999 or is it just TM?
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I thought it was all solid coloured bodied guns unless owned prior to 1999 or is it just TM?
December 1, 1998 I believe. But separate import and tarriff laws from criminal code and you will find your imitation firearm (note I do not use the word replica) has no statute against it.

However, the fastest way to upgrade your AEG to a full firearm is to commit a crime with it.
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December 1, 1998 I believe. But separate import and tarriff laws from criminal code and you will find your imitation firearm (note I do not use the word replica) has no statute against it.

However, the fastest way to upgrade your AEG to a full firearm is to commit a crime with it.
lol all the gangsta cats in mississauga take the air guns from crappy tire and rob stores with them...it happens quite often actually...i was working one day in timmies and this one guy comes in with this gun just no scope and the clip wasnt even in it....Airsoft Canada i let him rob the place but i laughed about it for days....its probably why airsoft guns are being watched so much....to many dumb kids watching to much t.v
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 02:49   #28
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No, TM is illegal (explicit) to import, as are replica firearms devices in accordance to CBSA's definition of a replica. Owning imitation firearms is not. I only point that out because its a point of frequent contention and misunderstanding here.
That's.....exactly what I said. Coming from Redwolf, airsoft is "illegal" in Canada. Meaning illegal to import which is all that matters for them.
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 02:56   #29
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What is wrote on your letter send by the border? is it a gearbox or a receiver? because I call the border and they say this was a metal receiver and it's not transparent... And I try to contact redwolf and no response...
It was just a mechbox shell, not a gun and no internals. Having internals in it does not make any difference as it is not a prohibited or even a controlled device. Customs said it was a "replica firearms receiver". Once the adjuducator from customs looked at it, he agreed with me that it was not a replica firearms receiver and released it that day. Still, it took two months from the time it got seized until it hit my doorstep. Redwolf won't help you, you'll have to deal with customs yourself on this. It's not hard, it just takes some phone calls, patience (lots of it) and time (even more).
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 11:18   #30
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What are those things worth? Like $250-260 USD?

Contest it as hard as you can because it seems like they confiscated it based on keyword in the invoice slip.

If it was something that was $50 or less I would save the headache but this is equivalent to about a weeks worth of wages.

Think of it this way. At least it wasn't a Systema Revolution gearbox that they seized. (Those go for about $500 USD).

This is kind of off topic, but what's the difference between the revolution and the Complete mechabox anyways?
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