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Old March 17th, 2009, 00:39   #1
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A scary article

I was paging through the sun on sunday and I came across this article:
Toy Spurs Police Raid

This got me thinking what's stopping the police from entering your house and taking you $500 airsoft gun in a similar situation? Does anyone here take precautions against this sort of thing or do they just hope for the best?



P.S. I don't know if this was already posted, if it was I'll remove it
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Old March 17th, 2009, 01:02   #2
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Keep it all in a gun safe, keep the gun safe locked and shut, put the safe in an out of site area of the house making sure its' not by your phone or cable box etc. Only carry them out and in while in cases.

Store them like the real thing and you won't have strangers dropping the dime on you.
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Old March 17th, 2009, 01:04   #3
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proper storage then you wouldnt have to worry
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Old March 17th, 2009, 02:38   #4
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"red laser scope rifle"
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Old March 17th, 2009, 10:36   #5
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It's honestly pretty sad that in today's society we need to "properly store" cap guns, etc.

I can see it being required for airsoft for obvious reasons, but lets get serious - a cap gun from the dollar store?
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Old March 17th, 2009, 11:06   #6
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Well, I guess with all the school shootings in the past, as well as society's general outlook that "guns are bad", its not surprising that this would happen. I mean, paranoid neighbours see you carrying around what, to them, looks to be a real rifle, they have no way of knowing its not in fact real, so they assume the worst.
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Old March 17th, 2009, 11:12   #7
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Christ. I live in a complex and there are so many kids running around with cap/dart guns it's insane, police would have a carnival if they really wanted to.

I guess it's partially the person holding the cap/dart gun. (sort of)

If I was to dress in all camo and carry around a few cap guns with an older friend, we'd probably have the cops eventually called on us.

Where as young kids, it's not really cared about.

I think some adults frown very much at us 'big kids' with our toy guns, yet want their young kids to have the fun of cops and robbers the parents did way back when.

Damn confuzing if you ask me.
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Old March 17th, 2009, 11:23   #8
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It's honestly pretty sad that in today's society we need to "properly store" cap guns, etc.

I can see it being required for airsoft for obvious reasons, but lets get serious - a cap gun from the dollar store?
Exactly, we live in a paranoid society today where people don't know how to mind their own business and at the first sign of "threat" they panic. They're the same type who call the police if someone bikes on the sidewalk in a suburb.

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Old March 17th, 2009, 12:01   #9
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atleast he only bought it at dollarama...

But seriously this is why you shouldn't plinker in your backyard, but if you are going too make sure you have an orange tip so it can be distinguished.

I've had neighbors look at me funny when they see me shooting bottles and boxes in my backyard. After that I've reduced myself to shooting only in my room or basement.
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Old March 17th, 2009, 12:05   #10
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i personally still dont understand what is stopping an asshole cop from taking away my airsoft stuff and not giving it back using the excuse that it is a replica.
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Old March 17th, 2009, 12:21   #11
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So what happens if you legally owned a gun, had it dissassembled on the table to clean it, and someone called the cops because they saw it for some reason? Could the cops come in with a warrent and sieze it?
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Old March 17th, 2009, 12:29   #12
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i personally still dont understand what is stopping an asshole cop from taking away my airsoft stuff and not giving it back using the excuse that it is a replica.
The law is stopping "some asshole cop" from taking away your AS stuff.

1. possession of replicas is 100% legal

2.unless they get a complaint.. or have probable cause to search they can not enter your home without an invitation.

3. stored properly out of sight will virtually eliminate any issues.

In the story cited.. police received a "gun call"

the technician saw what appeared to be a loaded handgun sitting on a shelf in the guy's apartment. He was justified to make the call to police and the police response was justified.

the owner was not charged as no offense had been commited.

This is why you must responsibly store and handle your AS guns.. all the time. Anyone seeing you through your window "fiddling" with your M4 or polishing your glock slide could misidentify these articles as guns and call police. then you very well could end up searched and it all seized.
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Old March 17th, 2009, 12:32   #13
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So what happens if you legally owned a gun, had it dissassembled on the table to clean it, and someone called the cops because they saw it for some reason? Could the cops come in with a warrent and sieze it?
No as you could show your legal ownership.. they could come over , break down your door, handcuff you and have you explain yourself from a face down on ther floor position..

So that is why most responsible gun owners don't have people they don't know observe anything to do with guns in their homes.
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Old March 17th, 2009, 12:42   #14
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the technician saw what appeared to be a loaded handgun sitting on a shelf in the guy's apartment. He was justified to make the call to police and the police response was justified.
Bull. Sorry man but that's a load of crap.

That guy had no business calling anyone because he saw what he "thought" was a firearm.

Even if it was a real firearm, it's none of his business. There is nothing stopping a legal owner from having a loaded firearm in residence.


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This is why you must responsibly store and handle your AS guns.. all the time. Anyone seeing you through your window "fiddling" with your M4 or polishing your glock slide could misidentify these articles as guns and call police. then you very well could end up searched and it all seized.
Again, I gotta call bullshit man.

I clean all my firearms on my FRONT DECK in the summer time. Sometime after having guests to the range there are 3 or 4 of us out there cleaning away.

I'm on my property, abiding by the law. My neighbors are aware of what I do, because I let them know in person with a chat.

But to say I can't clean my guns on my front deck because someone might drive or jog by and see "and evil firearm" and call the COPS?

Let them call. I look forward to having a conversation with the local COPS about what I can do on my own property.
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Old March 17th, 2009, 12:58   #15
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No one said he had any business doing it... but he did.. and the cops responded. That is a fact.

Sure it was harmless.. sure most people would go. Meh.. toy gun who cares..

but this "technician" obviously was clueless.. and called the cops.. Likely saying.. "the guy had guns laying all around his apartment"

A responsible legal gun owner would not leave a loaded hangun sitting on a bookshelf.. for any random person to see..


What you do on your deck in "the Wik" is your business.. but I know for a fact .. in my neighborhood.. If I cleaned what looked like a gun on my front porch I'd have a visit from ETF in short order.. But then there is a shooting within 1 km of my home EVERY WEEK and gun calls within 2 KM of my home EVERY DAY.. I had the ETF assault my old apartment buliding 2 times in one week due to gun calls.. because some one saw someone acting suspicious and holding what "may have been a gun" ( ive since moved.. but still live within 3 KM of that place)

It may very well be my right to clean my gun anywhere I want to on my property.. but there is a difference between rights to behavior and prudent behavior.. Personaly I'd rather not have to explain myself to heavily armed police while my neighbors look on.

You and I live about what 45 minutes apart in distance.. but worlds away in public perception of firearms.

And worlds away in police response to firearms.. your local Cops likely know who you are.. and what you do.

My local cops presume the worst.. and react like their lives are at risk ( because they are )

there is a big gap what should happen and what does.. it ain't BS its fact




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Bull. Sorry man but that's a load of crap.

That guy had no business calling anyone because he saw what he "thought" was a firearm.

Even if it was a real firearm, it's none of his business. There is nothing stopping a legal owner from having a loaded firearm in residence.




Again, I gotta call bullshit man.

I clean all my firearms on my FRONT DECK in the summer time. Sometime after having guests to the range there are 3 or 4 of us out there cleaning away.

I'm on my property, abiding by the law. My neighbors are aware of what I do, because I let them know in person with a chat.

But to say I can't clean my guns on my front deck because someone might drive or jog by and see "and evil firearm" and call the COPS?

Let them call. I look forward to having a conversation with the local COPS about what I can do on my own property.
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